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Hehhehee.. didnt take long!
http://rupewrecht.com/misc/rick_kelly1.jpg
http://rupewrecht.com/misc/rick_kelly2.jpg
from what i heard, it was all an accident, but i didnt see it myself so i cant say, do you have a video of it, i really want to see what happened.
:D
If it was any other race during the season, it'd be a case of in the wrong place at the wrong time .......... For what its worth, i wanted Lowndes to take one home for Ford!
The Doctor
11-12-06, 02:09 PM
you know this is like.. how can you win a championship if you haven't even won a race throughout the season.. it's just like nicky hayden. the guys win 2 races all season and becomes champion. what a rort
Justin Fox
11-12-06, 02:38 PM
Kelly's pretty damn good though aye? I missed it, is the video around yet?
Justin Fox
11-12-06, 02:41 PM
Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB-evTsJjYE
Nothing in it.
Absolutely; RK's contact would have unsettled Lowndes, but bumps happen all the time and there was nothing illegal about that contact. It was just an unfortunate position on the track for it to happen in. But to say that Lowndes couldn't have controlled his car in such a relatively simple incident - regardless of it being right before the corner - is the same as saying Lowndes is an amateur, and I'm pretty sure nobody's gonna say that.
For what it's worth, I've got no preference for either Holden or Ford, and I could care less about either driver, so I'm certainly not playing favourites.
As a comparison, AFL has gone from the rough and tough game of the 80s to the pussy little girl sport that it is today, with virtually every bump coming under scrutiny and resulting in suspensions. If incidents like this are going to raise concern, then this class of racing is as good as dead.
just like pushrod v8's should be dead.
Come on, keep it relevant. We're talking about the incident, not your opinion of V8s and V8 culture.
ozstrider
11-12-06, 03:37 PM
Im just wondering where the other Kelly came from, cos he was way ahead, then next thing you know hes being hit by Lowndes. Did he overbrake or were Lowndes and R.Kelly both coming in really quick?
It could have been that Lowndes had adjusted to the tap and straightened up, was back on the accelerator on the corner and didnt see the other Kelly and ran into him.
Was a real bummer for Lowndes. I was just hoping Garth Tander would take it home, he got damn close though.
scathing
11-12-06, 03:38 PM
Rubbin's racin'.
As people have said, its a matter of timing. Were it mid-season, that would be a "racing incident".
If anything, Lowndes has cut across Kelly's line and done it to himself. Admittedly Lowdnes was trying to overtake a back marker, but just because you're ahead and get screwed by traffic doesn't mean your competitor has to give way. Using back markers to your advantage is a classic race strategy.
And using "team strategy" to have one driver baulk in these kinds of situations is also a part of...you know...being a team. That HRT happened to have a driver in the lead that was in front of Lowdnes and making it difficult for him to pass....its not against the spirit of the rules nor the letter.
Also, if you watch the video you see R Kelly's car blowing flames before the impact. Which means he was off the throttle. I can't see if he was braking or not (I can't make out the front end dipping nor brake lights) but he wasn't pressing on trying to contest the issue. But the car can only stop so quickly, and if he can't get out of the way he can't get out of the way. He was already on the edge of the track and blocked from cutting across to the other side of the track by Lowndes' car. Its not his responsibility to drive onto the dirt to give way, lose grip for braking, and potentially crash harder due to the higher speeds.
And if Lowndes gets the contact and does the motorsport version of a "dive" to milk the penalty, he takes home the championship. While I'm not saying he did it on purpose (its not as blatant as Michael Schumacher's "mutual destruction" swerves) it is a bit suss.
Lowdnes knew Kelly was there. Being the championship finale on the last corner, Lowdnes knew Kelly wouldn't give way unless he absolutely had to. He cut across anyway, as any aggressive racer would, to take his chance and go for the victory. That he hit Kelly....that's racing.
scathing
11-12-06, 03:48 PM
But to say that Lowndes couldn't have controlled his car in such a relatively simple incident - regardless of it being right before the corner - is the same as saying Lowndes is an amateur, and I'm pretty sure nobody's gonna say that.
I beg to differ. Not In that situation, I would say it would be near impossible to control the car. That Lowdnes did as well as he did shows how good a driver he is.
The cars would have been doing a very high speed, given the length of the straight. The incident occurred practically at the braking point. Now Lowndes' car is wiggling its back end right when you're hard on the brakes. Anyone who's ever done any track work and had the misfortune of trying to hard brake knows how hard it is to keep your car on the straight and narrow.
That he didn't end up sideways at the contact shows that skill. But now he's barrelling into a 180 degree turn. His braking point and stability have been compromised by the impact. And he doesn't have the full width of the track to manouvre in, given the car in front. In fact, he slots into a gap about a quarter the width of the track.
Lowdnes tried to turn anyway, and all the non-amateurishness in the world doesn't change the fact that the physics was against him. I don't think anyone could have recovered from that.
Philip Lee
11-12-06, 03:51 PM
Lowdnes knew Kelly was there. Being the championship finale on the last corner, Lowdnes knew Kelly wouldn't give way unless he absolutely had to.
were you watching the same race as i did??
the incident occured on the 4th corner of the 2nd lap of the last race. there were still 20+ laps to go when the incident happened.
maybe i read your post wrongly?!?!
Happy to go with your opinion on that, you've got plenty more track experience than me! :)
annoyed i missed it, i was busy with a few mates, fitting a FMIC and front and rear strut braces and customising his front bar to fit on over the FMIC, i know where i would of rathered be, will ahve to watch it on youtube later
black200
11-12-06, 05:44 PM
lowneds is one of the biggest crybaby campswitchers on the face of the earth.
Not only that, he wasn't braking properly, Kelly was doing nothing wrong - sure he was up his ass but you see lowndes's car sit on the front and Kelly just had to be right behind and bump.
Welcome back to the champion's podium holden :D
black200
11-12-06, 05:47 PM
you know this is like.. how can you win a championship if you haven't even won a race throughout the season.. it's just like nicky hayden. the guys win 2 races all season and becomes champion. what a rort
also a massive cry baby. Soon as he doesn't get his own way out comes the tears and tantrums :p
scathing
11-12-06, 06:31 PM
maybe i read your post wrongly?!?!
No, I read the post wrongly. I mistook "last race" for "last corner" when reading it (I didn't see the race other than the Youtube footage posted).
By the time I hit the V8 Supercars web site to pick up some more detail, where it did mention that the contact was early in the race, I'd forgotten I'd written that.
My bad.
However, the rest of the quote (about Rick not giving way unless absolutely necessary given it was the championship on the line) is still accurate. Lap 2 or second last lap, when this one race determines who gets the championship I doubt any quarter not mandated by the rulebook (and that you'll get busted for) will ever be given by any racer.
Yet another one i just got by email .... someone got photoshop skillz. lol
http://rupewrecht.com/misc/rick_kelly3.jpg
i agree with you charle about lowndes being a cry baby.
:D
93tzlegacy
11-12-06, 08:20 PM
lowndes is notorious for shunting and the 1 time it happens to him in return he acts as if he has been hard done by? i think not. the right person won on the day.
black200
11-12-06, 09:28 PM
whoever made all those photochops is an absolute jerk
whoever made all those photochops is an absolute jerk
Id say they're a ford addict,. and they probably stalk lowndes!
Justin Fox
12-12-06, 10:50 AM
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lol.
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