View Full Version : Someone's ripped off my work :(
Justin Fox
27-12-06, 05:58 PM
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58216
:(
I'd be having a blow up if it was me Justin! Seriously, I hate it, absolutely hate it, when people do this.
Mike.V?!
27-12-06, 06:11 PM
Haha that's so weak.
Isn't JDM.TOY a member here?
:shock:
man thats like below the belt man
edit: I just went to page two of the link to see your post Justin, and then the guy's reply ... that's so not on!
nice image for hondas in general LOL
Haha that's so weak.
Isn't JDM.TOY a member here?
yes he is!
geez that's no good!
Babalouie
27-12-06, 06:49 PM
edit: I just went to page two of the link to see your post Justin, and then the guy's reply ... that's so not on!
Geez that was a weak response by that RMN guy: "ppl rip me off too, so I don't have any issue ripping you off"....bravo :rolleyes:
Gorilla
27-12-06, 07:07 PM
lol, clowns...replied!
.::F[L]Y::.
27-12-06, 07:10 PM
this only adds to ozhonda's 'image'
can u actually sue if you wanted to?
Babalouie
27-12-06, 07:19 PM
Y::.;23130']can u actually sue if you wanted to?
Not really, since Juz didn't actually lose any money from the rip off, nor did the guy profit from it in cash-dollar terms. So it's mainly a moral thing.
Justin Fox
27-12-06, 07:38 PM
I'm a little rocked by his response as I thought my initial post was written in a calm and constructive manner. IE: I put my initial anger aside, cooled down and then spent the time to write a well thought out response instead of merely flaming away.
All good in any case. I'm still hoping he'll re-consider not using the 'JDMyard inspired' logo in his future work.
sux eh.
not much u can do about it these days,
but people will see them for the crap artists they are...
karma will prevail.
I had a more serious breach about 3-4 years ago..
check it..
http://www.markpakula.com/cxr6t/images/DSCN0477.jpg
i took this pic for a client in 02, who loved it.
later i get an email saying why is his car in an ad?
I go, what ad?
he tells me its this arabic magazine, produced in Bankstown.
So check the newsagent, and find it.
http://www.markpakula.com/theif/pics.jpg
nice eh.
Babalouie
27-12-06, 08:05 PM
later i get an email saying why is his car in an ad?
I go, what ad?
he tells me its this arabic magazine, produced in Bankstown.
So check the newsagent, and find it.
http://www.markpakula.com/theif/pics.jpg
nice eh.
Geez, that's a bit rich...it's one thing for an amateur photographer to rip off a professional logo for his own happy snaps, but it's a different kettle of fish when a rival professional wedding photographer passes off your work as his own in an ad....I hope you managed to put a stop to that?
i took a visit to his shop, and thought, hmm...
jihad jihad mohummad...
eh.
xxploSive
27-12-06, 08:23 PM
lol that guys a fuckin tool..
permission granted to kick his ass
"who are you to tell me not to copy.."
I AM THE CREATOR BITCH!
scathing
27-12-06, 08:43 PM
Who the fuck would have an XR Falcon to be used to promote weddings and glamour? Unless your target market is into B&S Balls......its a Falcon. And they didn't block the plates or anything.
Fucking assholes, the lot of them. I know how you feel - I took a picture of my mate's blue S15 with 350Z Track wheels a while ago, and a few months later someone posted it up saying they took it. I'm not even a professional designer and I got the red mist on.
I would have been OK if they'd credited me for it (since they weren't charging for it either) but no, they said it was their own.
what's happened to people's initiative these days
Shit man thats f@rked man.
Cant believe someone would do that. Who is Jdmtoy here?
Hey he's taken it off....hey questlove - he gave you some evil language.
justin i sympathize with you mate... ive got a diploma in 3D graphics and animation, we had it drummed into us the moral and legal ramifications...
i mean seriously, he went to all that trouble to change the jdm yard logo to his own version! really how hard is it just to put your own feckin watermark on a photo!! doesnt have to be anything fancy your name will do it for chrixt sake, so then people will know who i came from!!
Babalouie
27-12-06, 09:54 PM
I think *someone* has anger management issues :D
lovesil
27-12-06, 09:57 PM
man, i'm seriously shocked by that guy's response. It doesn't really matter what Justin's reply is implying, but it is his fault to copy other's design in the first place. Its lucky of him to only copied the jdmyard logo. Just imagine he copied a logo like Mcdonald or Microsoft and then we will see him really get kicked in his ass for it.
.::F[L]Y::.
27-12-06, 09:59 PM
whoa. saw the reaction in that thread.....
definately childish to say the least. does not represent himself or his crew well at all....
as soon as i saw the logo i knew the thread was gona turn into a shitfight rofl
speedracr
27-12-06, 10:03 PM
pretty bad things he said there...
Silly silly
xxploSive
27-12-06, 10:04 PM
Y::.;23130']this only adds to ozhonda's 'image'
can u actually sue if you wanted to?
what are you going to sue him for? the most valuable asset he has is probably that $10k civic...
your legal fees will be more than that :)
44 this year
27-12-06, 10:20 PM
anyway i'd like to give a big shout out to him and say... keep at the how-to-be-creative-and-original-tutorials mate, you will get there soon. :mrgreen:
I think *someone* has anger management issues :D
who me? ill kill you for that!!!
im kidding... no i meant that he went to all that trouble to change the logo so it said something different and seeing how many of you guys take photos and stuff here and go to the trouble to put a watermark on your pics, even if it is just your name... why doesnt he do that? probably take about 3secs in photo shop...
hahahaha he wanted to start a biffo over the net, i've not no respect and little time for people in that basket
Middle Man
27-12-06, 11:03 PM
HAHA what a fcuking cockbag - i'll punch on for JDMST :lol:
Rotary_rockeT
27-12-06, 11:09 PM
brawn over brains kind of person . . .
It seems like he likes saying "say it to my face" alot, i rememeber the same thing said a couple of months ago on this forum too.
One day i am sure someone will say it to his face.
http://forum.jdmstyletuning.com/showpost.php?p=11648&postcount=22
LOL just read the degradation of that thread on OzHater, then came here cos I know Justin would have signed up just to reply :)
That website is REALLY ghey sometimes. Sorry that happened to you Foxy!
danielb
27-12-06, 11:17 PM
Soooo many people like that in Sydney these days.
At least he admits that he liked your original logo lol.
Babalouie
27-12-06, 11:56 PM
who me? ill kill you for that!!!
im kidding... no i meant that he went to all that trouble to change the logo so it said something different and seeing how many of you guys take photos and stuff here and go to the trouble to put a watermark on your pics, even if it is just your name... why doesnt he do that? probably take about 3secs in photo shop...
Oh the irony....he puts a watermark on his pics so that ppl can't copy it....then goes and copies someone's logo and says....so what :D
Xero, you lookin' at me? I said....you lookin' at ME? :D
Brian_J
28-12-06, 12:17 AM
aw does anyone have the pics he posted? im curious now
on page 2 there is 1 image with a dc5s
VTECMACHINE
28-12-06, 12:26 AM
Holy F**k!!! what a loser! Got pissed off like that for no reason. Foxy.. you in the right man... FIGHT THE POWER!!!!
Edit: That gave a bad reputation for JDM style tuners like ourselves, himself and his 'C®ew'.
that's pretty lame Justin... I hear you mate.
On the whole legal action issue... is there grounds for significant action to warrant spending the money on legal action against him???
To me it seems like he's just a recrational user dressing his photo's up and not actually using that logo or anything that could be classed as plagarism of your work for commercial purposes?? I'm not suggesting that you should or shouldn't take legal action. I think the best thing to do would be to contact the administrators of Ozhonda and ask them to remove his images.
ae86slaver
28-12-06, 01:06 AM
http://uploader.ws/upload/200612/lold3.jpg
mrkrooz
28-12-06, 01:56 AM
yeh its pretty bad.......i dnt know either ppl but i browse both forums....and this has been quite a shock....it has spread pretty quick...i say dnt let it escalate....
Justin Fox
28-12-06, 02:32 AM
Hey there was never ever a point where I even though of suing. I'd always try to resolve something before going to extremes like that.
What people forget is that putting pictures online is a form of "publishing". So saying it's for personal use is one thing but publishing them on a public forum, or anywhere else on the internet is a different story altogether.
I would have loved to stay out of it but I just said something because I had to. Simple as that.
In the end of the day I'm glad he's made all the crazy posts he's made as it shows him for who he really is and perhaps it'll make it easier for everyone who reads the thread to decide for themselves what's right or wrong.
Gorilla
28-12-06, 02:37 AM
?uest love shut the *** up or say it in my face. cause ill be glad to give u a shiner mate
Lol I see this clown all the time on the road, next time I see him, I will say your pictures are crap mate...bahahahaha.
black200
28-12-06, 02:55 AM
seems like an upstanding young gentleman with strong moral and ethical values
Mike.V?!
28-12-06, 03:55 AM
Lol I see this clown all the time on the road, next time I see him, I will say your pictures are crap mate...bahahahaha.
I've seen pictures of you Questlove, I'd doubt he'd pull the tough guy act in person. Haha.
So sad to see such tools on the net.....
I remember his attitude on this forum when people bagged out his ride....
Fair enough its kind of slack to bag out somones ride on a public forum, but his response and the manner in which he handles such criticism was and still is very childish to say the least.
hahah I agree with Mike.V I doubt he will pull the tough guy act if he saw you in person shane, being in a AW11 makes you look bigger too !! :P
Middle Man
28-12-06, 07:55 AM
Lol I see this clown all the time on the road, next time I see him, I will say your pictures are crap mate...bahahahaha.
LOL go bro! :lol:
Be sure to wear your gang colours and your bandana 2pac stylez :lol:
FRpilot
28-12-06, 08:35 AM
lol typical asian c**t from the west
rips off work and defends himself for it
Gorilla
28-12-06, 08:45 AM
Im a lover not a fighter...hahaha. I never mess with 5T man! I never Bag out peoples ride, even in my head I think its not my taste, I never show that to the owner. But after I saw this guys reply to Justin, I just had to hehehe. (the cars arnt that bad either, especiall the EK which has had some engine work)
T.."More deep than a range rover jeep, guns under the seat" Now whats that from? haha
I never mess with 5T man!
Haha....ahh the olskool trouble makers.
I remember Djaying an 18th Birthday at Warwick Farm in 1997, I was in the garage when a dude was staring at a dudes chick, the chix dude got pissed off, left, cameback to the party in 10minutes, brought 6 cars full of Gangsters with him, my mates mum open the front door, they slashed her wrists because she wouldnt let them in, broke in the house, trashed everything, exited the back door where the party was happening, dudes running with an axe, bat, crowbar, clublock, shopping trolley poles, everyone running past me while the music still pumping, went to the side on the street, one last guy running past with a shotgun, i then decide to cut the music and duck under the table, heard gunfire, screaming, cars rev and screaching, the gangsters all left, cops and ambulances came, a dude was shot in the torso, a few bashed and cuts and my mates mum rushed to the hospital.
My mum heard about the party I djayed and wouldnt let me dj again :lol:
Well, the gigs I did from then on were not around that area anymore :lol:
satanic
28-12-06, 10:20 AM
^^^ Man that is screwed up! Surely all the culprits have now been IDed and locked up... feel sorry for the mom!
Anyways, back on topic; doesn't look good for OzHonda once again :(
LOL .. i remember stirring this tool up when he joined this forum :P
He's another good reason i couldnt bring myself to buying a Honda.
Justin Fox
28-12-06, 10:44 AM
He's another good reason i couldnt bring myself to buying a Honda.
Now now. Honda's are a massive part of JDM Style and Tuning. I'd even go as far to say that the Honda owners were the first in Australia to latch on to JDM culture. Paying out on Honda cars and their owners is easy, but it's pretty whimpy too.
As a non honda owner (which a lot of you also are) .... the whole stereotyped circle of Honda owners ONLINE is generally a BAD impression...... much like WRX owners. Mind you, the massive amounts of Lancer ricers i have to deal with on forums isnt much better. :D
FYI, Secretly, i am a closet case honda fan .... absolutely love driving them.
MFN-MAN
28-12-06, 11:41 AM
bad move on his part...just making himself look like an absoloute tool. the jdmyard is an easily recognisable logo in the industry. he wont get far trying to pass it off as his own work. he'll get his just deserts!
PyRoMaNiAc
28-12-06, 11:46 AM
what a fkin e-thug!
mrkrooz
28-12-06, 05:48 PM
Now now. Honda's are a massive part of JDM Style and Tuning. I'd even go as far to say that the Honda owners were the first in Australia to latch on to JDM culture. Paying out on Honda cars and their owners is easy, but it's pretty whimpy too.
Wise words.....not all of us Honda owners r like this guy....actually the car he is driving should not matter its the person involved....his car had nthning to do with it lol.... :) i think Justin has taken the mature approach the whole way...Big Props!!
Kikkoman
28-12-06, 06:28 PM
i lol'd @his replies.
alot of honda owners get a bad name becuase thats what they start out driving as young kids. Civics? check. Mums pass me down cars? check.
Middle Man
28-12-06, 09:22 PM
Im a lover not a fighter...hahaha. I never mess with 5T man! I never Bag out peoples ride, even in my head I think its not my taste, I never show that to the owner. But after I saw this guys reply to Justin, I just had to hehehe. (the cars arnt that bad either, especiall the EK which has had some engine work)
T.."More deep than a range rover jeep, guns under the seat" Now whats that from? haha
NO NO NO.....NOTORIOUS! :cool:
Haha....ahh the olskool trouble makers.
I remember Djaying an 18th Birthday at Warwick Farm in 1997, I was in the garage when a dude was staring at a dudes chick, the chix dude got pissed off, left, cameback to the party in 10minutes, brought 6 cars full of Gangsters with him, my mates mum open the front door, they slashed her wrists because she wouldnt let them in, broke in the house, trashed everything, exited the back door where the party was happening, dudes running with an axe, bat, crowbar, clublock, shopping trolley poles, everyone running past me while the music still pumping, went to the side on the street, one last guy running past with a shotgun, i then decide to cut the music and duck under the table, heard gunfire, screaming, cars rev and screaching, the gangsters all left, cops and ambulances came, a dude was shot in the torso, a few bashed and cuts and my mates mum rushed to the hospital.
My mum heard about the party I djayed and wouldnt let me dj again :lol:
Well, the gigs I did from then on were not around that area anymore :lol:
aheaheheha, man, i thought 5t's are long gone! the new group i dunno how to type viet so im not gonna make a fool of myself but yeh. there is some new ones around.
lol, man, you guys wanna talk bout typical little ones, go to cabra during school holidays!
lol, i get death stares from little kiddies!! LOL, its funny thou!!! and me and my missues were full confused.. "do you know him" "is he looking at us" and we do that stand next to him and look behind us, and look at him again,and look behind us, and give this "ur crazy mate" look and walk off.
hahahahaha
go the teenie boopers! you guys rock!!! ROFL!!!
Middle Man
28-12-06, 10:19 PM
Hi JDMTOY, nice to see you online :lol:
stebaun
29-12-06, 03:18 AM
the link doesnt work, thread was deleted? anyone give me a recap?
VTECMACHINE
29-12-06, 04:16 AM
Wait... so is this guy still an active member of JDMST?
or was he banned ages ago for chucking a spastic, and wanting to kill everyone?
Now now. Honda's are a massive part of JDM Style and Tuning. I'd even go as far to say that the Honda owners were the first in Australia to latch on to JDM culture. Paying out on Honda cars and their owners is easy, but it's pretty whimpy too.
hmmm Hondas definitely are a big segment of the JDM style of tuning in Austalia, but I reckon the old school nissans and hachis latched on to it before the honda boys.....
hehe not trying to stir you guys, just expressin my thoughts...
Having sampled a wide variety of Hondas in the past year from an S2000, done up EM1 to a race car EK and modified and stock DC2 and DC5 Rs im an avid honda fan and would one day like to own one !!!
EM1 with K20A and integra 5 stud conversion FTW :)
Gorilla
29-12-06, 09:08 AM
Hondas are great cars, an owners attitude shoulnt change that.
T, what a mad song! DL now! haha.
Ohh talk about gangs..I been seeing "MS-13" graffit"ied" on some walls around my area....damn, now MS-13, is they are not joking around, thats a loco gang, originated from Central America, El Salvadore I think....
Justin Fox
29-12-06, 09:28 AM
hmmm Hondas definitely are a big segment of the JDM style of tuning in Austalia, but I reckon the old school nissans and hachis latched on to it before the honda boys.....
Nah man Hachi's weren't happening until Initial-D. It's not like you saw nice JDM Styled Hachi's everywhere on the streets 10 years ago but you definitely saw Honda's with Mugen stickers on them in the late 80's early 90's. That was AGES ago. I remember seeing heaps of Indonesian guys around Kingsford with Hondas slammed to the ground when I was still a kid. Would have been the late 80's.
hmm yeah I guess.....haha them indo guys were most likely the orginal [Cabin] crew hahaha
I do see your point but initial D just bought them out of the woodworks and every man and his dog wanted one afterwards...
but hey dattos were around before then !!! :P
It seems like he likes saying "say it to my face" alot, i rememeber the same thing said a couple of months ago on this forum too.
One day i am sure someone will say it to his face.
http://forum.jdmstyletuning.com/showpost.php?p=11648&postcount=22
this dudes like my age, and no offence, his acting like some cabramatta hard arse on the forums.... its like chill dude.... and as for questlove, im sure he wouldn't dare confronting you if he saw you in person lol
Gorilla
29-12-06, 10:53 AM
lol nip, As long as CC Dave is with me, ill be right!
satanic
29-12-06, 11:16 AM
LOL at nipnip's username :P I hope you're Asian, makes it even more hillarious~
Oh the irony....he puts a watermark on his pics so that ppl can't copy it....then goes and copies someone's logo and says....so what :D
Xero, you lookin' at me? I said....you lookin' at ME? :D
lol...
yeah im LOOKING AT YOU!
you better STEP UP! coz i STEP DOWN!... :D
and YOU BETTER PUT OUT, coz i PUT IN...
ive seen those ms-13 graffiti too, recently sprayed all over the polding street round about pillars
LOL at nipnip's username :P I hope you're Asian, makes it even more hillarious~
yep, ex cabra resident :mrgreen:
This thread is locked on ozhonda and pics deleted , just move on guys.
jaynismo
02-01-07, 08:35 PM
Not really, since Juz didn't actually lose any money from the rip off, nor did the guy profit from it in cash-dollar terms. So it's mainly a moral thing.
Hey,
I didn't see the pics, but mate I feel for ya. One of my design friends asked me to look over a contract for her with Havianas and you just have to make sure you have all avenues covered within reason. Babalouie is right - there is little grounds for litigation unless there was some material gain or loss on either parties.
I've been looking into legislation for design work, and here's some info that may help.
Copyright is free and applies automatically: there is no registration system for copyright and no fees to pay. As soon as the work is created and expressed in a material form (for example, by making the garment) copyright automatically protects the work.
Copyright notice
Although it is not legally necessary, it is a good idea to place the copyright notice on your work. The copyright notice consists of the copyright symbol ©, followed by the name of the copyright owner and the date the work was created. For example, "© Kaf Tan Ltd 2005".
This notice alerts people to the fact that the work is protected by copyright and you are the person claiming ownership of copyright. You can print or write the copyright notice on the work itself or on a label attached to the work"
I guess it may be more difficult for work produced and distributed via the internet, but my recommendation is to keep good records of everything - drafts, ideas journals, storyboards whatever it is - Just incase one day the damage is material and worth suing for. From what I gather about design copyright, the onus of proof in court is on you to prove it is your original work.
Take it as a compliment that someone has regarded your work so highly, and I'm sure that karma will catch up with him one day if he keeps doing it - hopefully the next time he decides to plagiarise someone's work it will be someone like Microsoft or something who will take it further - coz legal fees will only be spare change to them.
I don't think we should make personal remarks here either - its totally unnecessary to bag out something because each person's taste is to their own. If you don't have anything nice to say, its probably better to keep it to yourself. We're all here to hopefully learn something from each other anyway :)
http://plone.copyright.org.au/pdf/acc/infosheets_pdf/G084.pdf
Here is a good info sheet regarding copyright by the Australian Copyright Council. Don't forget to tag on those (C) symbols when producing original work since there are too many leechers on the net.
Babalouie
02-01-07, 11:53 PM
I guess it may be more difficult for work produced and distributed via the internet, but my recommendation is to keep good records of everything - drafts, ideas journals, storyboards whatever it is - Just incase one day the damage is material and worth suing for. From what I gather about design copyright, the onus of proof in court is on you to prove it is your original work.
What used to be known as "poor man's copyright" in the olden days was to print out what you wrote/designed, then stuff it in a reg'd envelope and mail it to yourself.
Reg'd mail has a time-stamp on it, so as long as you don't go and forget what it is and open it :) then you should have decent proof of the time you came up with it.
Dunno if it still works today but writers used to do it all the time decades ago.
Justin Fox
03-01-07, 12:16 PM
MSJ:44Y: Well said. I've been ripped off so many times in the past. I used to take that stance "Oh, take it as a compliment".
I suppose it depends who's being hurt. In this particular case I couldn't take it as a compliment because they were not ripping off my own personal work, it was a commercial job for a commercial company. That makes it a little different.
Anyways, all good. As Yonas (EG5) from JDMyard says, thread's been closed on OH. Let's all move on.
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