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radism
31-10-08, 03:44 AM
So i'm heading to hong kong for 8 days on the 27th Nov and then to Beijing till the 22nd Dec there after.
What i'd like to know from anyone who frequents the places or has good enough knowledge is:

best clubs/night life spots (i'll get back to you with details as to where in beijing in particular we're staying soon for more relevant guidance)

best places to buy clothing (fake but of decent quality)

best places to get phones and cameras (im thinking hong kong is the best place for this)

and best places to get some NBA apparel (jerseys, shorts, shirts, shoes etc)

and other noteworthy info.

Cheers guys!

scathing
31-10-08, 06:51 AM
Hong Kong:

Lan Kwei Fong is the expat drinking district in Central. It's quite near the MTR station so it's not a long walk.

Wan Chai is the red light district, so if you're after more bars or something more intimate then that's the place to go.

The calendar for the Australian Association of Hong Kong (http://www.ozhongkong.com) is a bit sparse for the beginning of December, but they might populate it later. You can always give them a call if you're stuck.

Check out Mt Victoria. It has great views over the city of HK, and is where most of the promotional shots are taken. If you take the bus, you can see the closest thing that comes to a touge there.

For "genuine" brand name shopping, Causeway Bay and Tsim Sha Tsui.

Mong Kok has the famous Hong Kong street stalls (and has a building that just sells mobiles) but a lot of the shops have gone "genuine" so it isn't the free-for-all it used to be. The street stalls are still there, though. The clothing is pretty average quality, but not exactly expensive.

Stanley is the touristy place. They sell touristy rubbish. The only good thing about it is that it's on the beach, a rarity in Hong Kong, and has reasonably nice food. The road out there is also windy, but too bad you won't be driving.


Biggest tip. Get an Octopus stored value card (http://www.hong-kong-travel.org/Octopus.asp). It basically means not carrying coins, and after you use it you'll wish the guys who invented it didn't have to deal with our Labor government in Sydney's implementation because it is fucking awesome. Most convenience stores and fast joints, as well as all public transport bar cabs, accept it.


Where are you staying in HK?

eug4emi
31-10-08, 10:56 AM
For now this is a start:

best clubs/night life spots (i'll get back to you with details as to where in beijing in particular we're staying soon for more relevant guidance)
Lan Kwai Fong is a very busy touristy nightlife area, it's near Central. There are pubs and clubs, and open till late. Depends on what music, clubs playing R&B hiphop are Sugar, Hei Hei etc. For upscale celebrity style clubs google for Dragon I, Volar, Home base.

best places to buy clothing (fake but of decent quality)
fake? if so, go to Mongkok a street known as 'woman st'.

Otherwise for decent places to shop you can be wrong from Causeway bay, Tsim Shai Tsui and Mongkok

For branded and upscale stuff, go to Central, IFC shopping mall, Time Square

best places to get phones and cameras (im thinking hong kong is the best place for this)
Go to Mongkok too for this, but watch out for 'hot' items. Go to various malls there and you can't miss out. Note due to exchange rate buying branded equipment might not be as lucrative anymore.

and best places to get some NBA apparel (jerseys, shorts, shirts, shoes etc)
One word. Mongkok, there's a street there known as 'sports shoes st'

and other noteworthy info.

this link has info on latest clubs, fashion etc http://www.hongkonghustle.com/

Can you read canto? If so pm me I will send you an eating guide I made :)
Also go to openrice.com for dining reviews and addies etc

China is a great place to eat, shop etc, it is much more sophisticated than ever, you should really visit Shang Hai, in a few yrs time it will overtake HK. But watch out for dodgy pick pockets etc in China.

Another suggestion is to boat it from Central to Macau to just take a visit at the asian 'las vegas', much more developed now, plenty of casinos if you into that thing and food to eat.

Penguin
31-10-08, 11:32 AM
knutsford terrace in TST is also a good drinking place......try the russian bar there, you won't be disappointed. causeway bay also has some decent nightlife on lockhart rd.

if you want shopping head to Sha Tin New Town Plaza. it's a massive shopping centre. also Festival Walk in kowloon tong

might i also suggest catching the ferry to macau? theres some good package deals including accomodation and ferry tickets @ $2000HKD. the accomodation is at either venetian or wynns hotels, i would suggest wynns as all the tourists pack into the venetian and it has become really quite cheap. good thing in macau is you can smoke anywhere (if that's your thing) in hk it's pretty much like oz....smoking banned in most places.

Mr Happ
31-10-08, 01:59 PM
Scathing has pretty much covered it as far as HKG goes...... I'll just add some comments re beer consumption :

General :

LKF for a good night time swill and overall the best atmosphere on any given night in HK. Wanchai good for a laugh depending on the company you are in of course) and its not ALL girly bars- there are different kind of bars but basically dont go in to any that have touts....run a mile. Mind you pretty everywhere here has freelancers, but this is the same of LKF too.

On Kowloon side, Knutsford Terrace is OK but generally much more quiet than LKF.

During the day i quite like getting the Ferry out to Lamma Island for some Seafood (go to Sok Kwu Wan Village) and Stanley is ok too, you could always go to Jumbo at Aberdeen for lunch too.

MORE CLASSY :

There are some great places in the IFC, at 2 IFC Red Bar is cool, and there are other places you will find just looking around.

Check out SOHO (not far from Lwan Kwai Fong) plenty of good upmarket bars around here..

radism
04-11-08, 02:41 PM
in hk we're staying in Shatin
in beijing, were staying in xin jie kou near xi dan.

hope that gives you guys a clear idea of where we are and where we should go!

eug4emi
04-11-08, 04:07 PM
Shatin is Kowloon side, pretty distant from the places we mainly suggested :)

Mr Happ
04-11-08, 04:43 PM
however, bloody good if you like the gee gees

radism
04-11-08, 05:14 PM
what are gee gees? and hong kong isn't that big right? shatin is described to me as the equivalent as north sydney to our cbd... how is that accurate?

Penguin
04-11-08, 05:50 PM
depends what you count as the CBD in hk. but becuase hk is so small everything seems close.

which hotel you staying in shatin?

scathing
05-11-08, 12:16 AM
what are gee gees? and hong kong isn't that big right? shatin is described to me as the equivalent as north sydney to our cbd... how is that accurate?

Shatin is like the middle of suburbia by Hong Kong standards.

This is the rail network map:

http://www.mtr.com.hk/eng/train/images/MTR_routemap.jpg

Caution: Fucking huge image

The "CBD" extends, on the island, from Central to Causeway Bay (maybe you can include Sheng Wan).

Tsim Sha Tsui would count as North Sydney, except for the fact that TST is actually interesting.

As you can see Sha Tin is half way to China. :P In reality, you're looking at half an hour on the trains to get onto the island.

People with money live on the island. The New Territories, in Sydney parlance, would be like living out west. As practically anywhere in the world, the further you get away from a coast and the farther you get away from the CBD the less land/housing is worth.

radism
05-11-08, 01:28 AM
but that wont be too bad for us will it? obviously all the stuff to do and places to be esp at night would be in the cbd area. is there anything near us?

we're staying at the Regal on the River.

scathing
05-11-08, 02:20 AM
The MTR stops running at around 1AM, if I remember correctly, so unless you're planning on pulling a late one you can still pour yourself onto a train.

CaptainColen
05-11-08, 03:07 AM
Don't forget the skyride to the big buda

Mr Happ
05-11-08, 09:04 AM
what are gee gees? and hong kong isn't that big right? shatin is described to me as the equivalent as north sydney to our cbd... how is that accurate?

gee gees is Oz slang for Horses.

Sha Tin has a big race track and fark all else. So, you'll want to be home before MTR stops or get ready for a fair taxi ride.

iversonruls
05-11-08, 10:44 AM
and best places to get some NBA apparel (jerseys, shorts, shirts, shoes etc)

theres a shop in mong kok call "shooting 5", u can find a lot of jerseys, shorts and shirts which are not common outside.

radism
17-11-08, 11:43 PM
can anyone shed some light on all the above sorts of things but in Beijing?

slknv
18-11-08, 08:22 PM
For beijing, there's the usual fake markets, silk st have moved to their own huge airconditioned complex, which is nice in summer but a little redundant in winter (at least it's fully enclosed). Also try Hongqiao market which is near the temple of heaven complex, I think on the east side exit area. You'll save literally tens of cents by shopping at Hongqiao :) If you're into golfing, see if you can get yourself a set of clubs, I got a set of "Calloways" for $100, and the excess baggage to get them back to Australia was $150 :(

I wouldn't really recommend phones/cameras from china. Easy to get plenty of them in HK (I would stick with fortress and broadway rather than smaller independents, only a fraction more but genuine goods) and avoid the tourist traps in TST with the flashing neons and touts out the front! Not sure with the currency in the pits that it's any cheaper than in Australia, last time I was in HK (Jan 08) the saving of ~15% didn't really grab me, but I did get a PS3 for about AUD$320!

Last time I was in beijing we didn't go clubbing at night (not really my scene) but ask your concierge at the hotel and they can probably recommend you one or two. Make sure you get some proper duck! Food in Beijing is brilliant. Are you really going to be in beijing for 3 weeks, it's a long time to be in the one city if you're on holiday.

Tim

radism
18-11-08, 09:23 PM
yeah mate its more like 2 and a bit weeks. but beijing is just homebase cos my mates got an apartment there. we can do whatever we want in those 2 weeks including travelling a bit out of the city.

any recommendations about where to go and what to do/see outside of beijing? not too far out though :P

Bye Evo
18-11-08, 11:04 PM
yeah mate its more like 2 and a bit weeks. but beijing is just homebase cos my mates got an apartment there. we can do whatever we want in those 2 weeks including travelling a bit out of the city.

any recommendations about where to go and what to do/see outside of beijing? not too far out though :P

If your mate has a place in Beijing, then he should know all the good places to go.

Wangfujing Street is basically a street with shops/malls running down the whole length, plenty of shops to browse through, there is also a small markets section, but they mainly sell food and souvenirs.

Forbidden City, Lama Temple, Temple of Heaven, Beihai Park are all places you must see....

Taxi's are cheap and Beijing is huge.. so use them

A trip out to the Great Wall of China is also a must, I think the more tourist orientated place is Gubeikou, but anywhere along the wall is an experience.

Hong Kong is a great place just to wonder around.. MTR is fantastic, grab an Octopus Card, its like a debit card... very easy to use.

The Peak or Avenue of Stars ( Kowloon Side @ 8pm ) for fireworks and laser light show ( every day... )

Mong Kok is a crazy crazy place, plenty of ppl, shops and markets.. open till about 11pm, so plenty of time to shop if the weather is hot during the day..

I ended up buying my phone and camera at/near Times Square ( I got my aunty to do some haggling for me... )

If you are into computers there are heaps of Computer Centres around, offering stuff from USB sticks, Laptops, DVD Burners, you name it.. but gets confusing, so make sure you know what you want before shopping..

My biggest tip is

DO YOUR RESEARCH NOW

Have Fun

Cheers, Chris

scathing
26-11-08, 10:31 AM
I put this in another thread, but just as a FYI for anyone else looking at going to HK.

PCCW (Hong Kong's biggest carrier) has a WiFi service through its Netvigator ISP (http://wireless.netvigator.com/eng/index.htm).

Same setup as the hotspots down here. Unsecured AP, and loading a browser forces you to enter billing information that's uses the hardware address in the network card in your computer to authenticate.

The Pay As You Go charge is a waste of money, as paying by the day is HKD$20 (currently AUD$4). That's 30 mins at the Pay As You Go.

They've also got a shitload of hotspots. Every PCCW store and some of their payphone booths, a lot of convenience stores like 7-Eleven and Circle-K, the MTR stations, coffee shops like Starbucks and Pacific House, and random shops host Hotspots. Unlike in Australia, it's a service actually worth subscribing to.

scathing
04-12-08, 01:06 PM
It's your last day in Hong Kong, so chances are this article is a tad late:

http://www.news.com.au/travel/story/0,28318,24739581-27983,00.html