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SfS
17-02-09, 06:40 PM
I know its early and i've only just gotten my license but i'd like to think ahead as to which bike i'm going to get next and save as much coin as I can to be able to get it when I want.

As the title suggests these are the 4 choices that are highest on my list of purchases.

I'd LOVE to get any of these bikes with the exception of the 600 but it was a choice dad brought up as to insurance costs and etc until im 25:mad:

But the GSXR1000, beautiful bike loved them forever, the 'Busa... Need I say more? lol

And finally the 848, now this is the most expensive option of the 4, also not the most powerful i've heard good and bad things about it (bad things being no low down torque APPARENTLY) high maintence costs and such.

If I really had to I wouldn't like to stretch the budget more then 15k, unless I go new.

I'd like peoples opinions and such on there views of each bike? And how they all are performance wise and all that mumbo jumbo.

No doubt they will also occassionally get taken to a track day or the drags! And finally no I will not act like a d/head rider on the street!

Anyway thanks for your replies in advance people.

Cheers Jared

Knight Rider
17-02-09, 06:57 PM
Its understandable you have a passion for Suzuki, hence why your thinking about GSXR's and Busa's... Try to check out some Yamaha R6's-R1's or possibly CBR600's.... Compare them all. At the end of the day, its going to be how comfortable your going to be on the bike, not the make.

benxxx
17-02-09, 07:39 PM
Most people I know find 600's harder to insure than 1000's..... so I'd get quotes before you make a choice based on that

I'd go the GSXR1000 personally, make a heap of power all the way through the rev range, handle well with good tyres

The 600's are an awesome bike, but don't buy it if you don't want it though. they turn very well and are still a very fast machine.

The busa, will be more comfortable and easier to accelerate and top speed, but by no means easy rather it's heavier and more stable than a gsxr1000. but unless you're doing some major touring and extended top speed runs I don't see the point.

848.... meh, they look good, wouldn't pay the money for one though, even if they were comparable in price I wouldn't do it

brasher
17-02-09, 07:42 PM
Might be too much for you to handle but.

http://forum.jdmstyletuning.com/showthread.php?t=14430

danielb
17-02-09, 11:48 PM
If you aren't gonna act like a dickhead on the road the 600 would be enough.

Who doesn't want to do easy power wheelies though :lol:

snowman
18-02-09, 12:31 AM
848 is about 20k from memory- for the bike alone (used)
personally the only duc i would go for is a 1098

the 08 1ltr gixer used it like 15k- this would be my choice.

but as someone said best thing is to ride the bike for yourself and make up your own mind

3lusive
18-02-09, 11:43 AM
What about a GSXR 750?

SfS
18-02-09, 04:46 PM
I've got a mate (dads friend) thats into 'busas like nothing else, but his currently riding a Bking and has had well over 50 bikes.

I only put 600 up there due to the fact Dad thinks cheaper insurance then the others but now i'm not sure so i'll have to go get some quotes!

And yer I just thought of the 750 today! I'd really like to go 4 numbers just so if i but a 600 or 750 and want to upgrade it won't be a waste buying a bike then another one when I get bored of it.

Like yo uguys said I guess I will just have to test ride anything around that price/size range, I just didn't think they let you go filly fallying around on a brand spanker :S

ianmallee
18-02-09, 04:56 PM
yeah they will but you sign a form that makes you lieble for damages, i test rode a 1098 duc and that was 2k for insurance, action motorcycle charge 4k if you ride it off

SfS
23-03-09, 10:25 PM
Reviving a almost dead thread, just having a look on bike sales.

http://www.bikesales.com.au/all-bikes/dealer/details.aspx?R=3046932&__sid=1200A9A413F7&__Qpb=true&Cr=12&__Ns=p_Make_String%7c0%7c%7cp_Model_String%7c0%7c% 7cp_IsPremium_Int32%7c1&keywords=&__N=1432%20604%201430%201429%201428%204294967237%2 080&seot=0&__No=0&__Nne=15&trecs=34&silo=1400

Anyone have any views on the MV August F4 you know the 750 version? (a fair bit cheaper then the 1000 variant)

Garth Ivers
24-03-09, 12:40 AM
the 848 is hot but pricey
sounds like the devil tho

Knight Rider
24-03-09, 01:02 AM
Reviving a almost dead thread, just having a look on bike sales.

http://www.bikesales.com.au/all-bikes/dealer/details.aspx?R=3046932&__sid=1200A9A413F7&__Qpb=true&Cr=12&__Ns=p_Make_String%7c0%7c%7cp_Model_String%7c0%7c% 7cp_IsPremium_Int32%7c1&keywords=&__N=1432%20604%201430%201429%201428%204294967237%2 080&seot=0&__No=0&__Nne=15&trecs=34&silo=1400

Anyone have any views on the MV August F4 you know the 750 version? (a fair bit cheaper then the 1000 variant)

Damn I never knew MV Augusta's were that cheap! Damn looks nice with the quad exhaust pipes...

SfS
24-03-09, 05:45 AM
So i'm assuming it would be good value for money then? Lol

danielb
24-03-09, 07:54 AM
It'd depend on running costs i guess

For a 9 year old bike, it's the same price as a brand new jap 600 as well, so it'd depend on what your idea of good value is :lol:

Garth Ivers
24-03-09, 11:14 AM
but then again, with the MV you wont see 6 other people riding the EXACT same bike on any given sunday...

benxxx
24-03-09, 11:57 AM
It'd depend on running costs i guess

For a 9 year old bike, it's the same price as a brand new jap 600 as well, so it'd depend on what your idea of good value is :lol:

Hard ! A new jap bike will be faster, cheaper, and more reliable.

win/win/win

Roadster
24-03-09, 12:02 PM
Hard ! A new jap bike will be faster, cheaper, and more reliable.

win/win/win

until the time comes for a valve clearance inspection. lol

benxxx
24-03-09, 12:03 PM
Still cheaper than Euro trash :P

danielb
24-03-09, 12:55 PM
but then again, with the MV you wont see 6 other people riding the EXACT same bike on any given sunday...

There'd be a reason for that.

Because the MV isn't good value :lol:

Actually, this past sunday i was riding up at old pac and i saw one other k8/k9 gsxr. I saw 2 MV agustas, countless ducatis etc

Roadster
24-03-09, 02:10 PM
There'd be a reason for that.

Because the MV isn't good value :lol:

Actually, this past sunday i was riding up at old pac and i saw one other k8/k9 gsxr. I saw 2 MV agustas, countless ducatis etc

meh, i was fishing on a boat below mooney mooney bridge on sunday! lol

Garth Ivers
24-03-09, 02:17 PM
you guys are so pidgeonholed into your respective bikes...

scares me.

benxxx
24-03-09, 02:26 PM
Not really, I like many styles of bike, I just know Japs do sports bikes that have more power, are faster, are more reliable and cheaper to buy and mantain

danielb
24-03-09, 03:10 PM
Not really pidgeonholed, if anything i'd say you are worse Garth. You always seem to have something against the jap sportsbikes.

I'd love an MV agusta, but not when it costs 4 times what any of the jap bikes do. They're relatively cheap, perform just as well as the 'exotics' and are cheaper to insure, maintain, drop :lol:

I guess if image is a main concern for you when it comes to choice of bike then yeah, you may be able to justify the premium?

Maybe in about 20 years ill be able to afford one, and believe me if i could afford something like that now i would've bought it. The reason for my original comments was just that i don't think it's good value!

benxxx
24-03-09, 03:16 PM
Even if I could afford and MV I wouldn't, I'd still buy a Jap bike do some choice mods, and about 11ty billion track days with the price difference

danielb
24-03-09, 03:17 PM
The MV would be for stopping by the cafe's on the weekend :lol:

SfS
24-03-09, 05:09 PM
but then again, with the MV you wont see 6 other people riding the EXACT same bike on any given sunday...

That was one of my main reasons for wanting something a bit differant from a Gixxer!

I know the Jap bikes outperform pretty much every other bike in everything but it can't be substationally that much more can it?

danielb
24-03-09, 09:53 PM
Not enough for most mere mortals to be able to squeeze the extra performance out of them...

Unless you're steve of course :lol:

CONAN
24-03-09, 10:29 PM
Unless you're steve of course :lol:

hahahhahahahahahah

http://www.toastedpixel.com/comic/clips/dancing/breakin.gif

Roadster
25-03-09, 09:30 AM
Not enough for most mere mortals to be able to squeeze the extra performance out of them...

Unless you're steve of course :lol:

there there, I've still yet to unleash the full potential of a 8 year old 600. lol
actually, don't think I unleashed the 21 year old cbr250.

SfS
21-06-10, 07:02 PM
Reviving a dead thread lol. Now in the market for a new bike, thinking 600 or 750 now, only thing stopping me from a 600 is I will probably get bored of it.

May the search continue dammit!

PA70NG
21-06-10, 07:40 PM
Reviving a dead thread lol. Now in the market for a new bike, thinking 600 or 750 now, only thing stopping me from a 600 is I will probably get bored of it.

May the search continue dammit!

You'll get bored of it...?

Question, how long have you been riding and what have you been riding?

SfS
21-06-10, 07:45 PM
Been riding my Hyosung gt250r, but been riding dads busa a couple days a week. been riding since late 08 too.

PA70NG
21-06-10, 08:04 PM
Doubt you'll outride a 600 that soon. Just my opinion anyway.

That said Id take a 750

DR-JEKL
21-06-10, 08:42 PM
Jared get a gixxer 1000!

Awesome power and can be had for dirt cheap!

I have seen an 08 model with yoshi pipes, DB, fender eliminator, power commander with 11k kays go for $9K on ebay.

That's a lot of bike for the cash, a 600 or a 750 wouldn't be had for much cheaper.

One of the last rides I went on funnily enough involved a modified busa, stock gixxer K7 1000, and a 08 848.

On some fast riding the busa wasn't invincible until speeds hit over 200 on the straights...

At the end of the day no matter the brand of bike, the wind in the face feeling is the same.

Buy the bike where your heart is and what offers the best bang for your buck @ the time of purchase.

SfS
21-06-10, 08:52 PM
Dad doesn't want me to get a 1k cause he thinks its too much of a leap power-wise for someone like myself lol:oops: , I wanted a 1k originally. All depends though I guess. I just wanna get off my 250 :twisted:

ewokracing
21-06-10, 10:17 PM
look withn yourself.

Do you really have the self restraint to ride a 1000cc bike?

I know I didnt.

SfS
21-06-10, 10:21 PM
I generally don't have much self restraint with anything LOL. But I will be taking the bike to a track too so I guess I could use a 1k... Maybe? lol

DR-JEKL
21-06-10, 10:48 PM
A CT110 is dangerous in the hands of an imbecile.

If you don't have the restraint to be sensible on public roads you shouldn't be riding a 250cc...

I can see your old man's point of view to some extent to grow into a bike, but it's a lot more cost effective to purchase a litre bike now rather then buy a 600 now & then resell it in 12 months time....

It is also interesting that he gains you access to his busa but won't let you purchase a litre bike?

driverbent
21-06-10, 11:40 PM
I had a VTR1000sp1 for a while and even though it was a 1L bike it wasnt as powerful as the inline 4s but at the same time i found it hard to find places where i can hold full throttle for more than a couple of seconds, id rather have a bike that i can rev out now and again without doing 200+ Km/h.

IMO a 600 would be plenty on the road and even on the track since you will be learning, then only thing the 1L is gonna do for you is a slightly higher speed on the straight.

DrewMan
21-06-10, 11:58 PM
I think you should only get something you know you wont get yourself in trouble in.

If you think you can be sensible on a litrebike, then by all means get one. Just dont cry when you lose your license or worse

PA70NG
22-06-10, 12:16 AM
I see a lot of discussino on what you can be sensible on. You can break the speed limit and/or kill yourself on any given bike.

What Id be considering is what suits your riding style, what will you be able to ride most effectively.

I know Id rather be a betetr rider on a smaller bike than a shit one on a thou.

Bit embarassing when Ive seen 125 2T's munch up 600's in the hands of a poser

Kyon
22-06-10, 12:23 AM
IMO a 600 would be plenty on the road and even on the track since you will be learning, then only thing the 1L is gonna do for you is a slightly higher speed on the straight.

1k also has effortless torque and plenty of pull. You could just leave it in first and cruise around all day. There's power throughout the whole rev range, and you're not constantly down shifting to stay in the power band. A 600 would be plenty imo, but that's just my opinion. The gearing suits my riding style more (commuting, twisties and street riding).

You'll need some serious self-discipline when it comes to throttle control on a 1k, there's some real temptation to just say "Fuck it" and give it a hit - which can sometimes have fatal consequences. However, I think every rider (regardless of whether you like supersports or not) needs to experience a litrebike at sometime in their life. If it doesn't leave you with a huge shit eating grin and a huge amount of respect for the machine, then there's something wrong with you.

I highly recommend you test ride the bikes and see which one you like more (since that's what it comes down to ultimately)

jaayy
22-06-10, 04:58 AM
I know Id rather be a betetr rider on a smaller bike than a shit one on a thou.

Bit embarassing when Ive seen 125 2T's munch up 600's in the hands of a poser

Totally agree.

jbird
22-06-10, 08:25 AM
Maybe he's a poser and just rides from A to B so whatever bike he gets wouldn't really matter.

I say your dad respects you enough to let you have a decision, he suggests against the 1000 but at the end of the day it's your money. Buy what you want.

Alternatively, buy a 1000 and put 600 stickers/badges on it.

PA70NG
22-06-10, 09:03 AM
Maybe he's a poser and just rides from A to B so whatever bike he gets wouldn't really matter.

I say your dad respects you enough to let you have a decision, he suggests against the 1000 but at the end of the day it's your money. Buy what you want.

Alternatively, buy a 1000 and put 600 stickers/badges on it.

Yeah true, and going by the posts Im going to say this bike will have some fat chicken strips lol.

SfS
22-06-10, 09:52 AM
Poser? Far from it I love riding and I have since i've started. I figured I would ask some people with a fair bit more knowledge and experience with bigger bikes then myself. Yeh I love giving it the occassional hit but I don't ride like a dick 24/7, and i'd prefer to do it safely if I did which is why ill be taking it to the track.

mxcrazy
22-06-10, 11:40 AM
Your best bet would be to go to your local dealer and arrange a few test rides, to ascertain what you like, and what you're comfortable riding. Furthermore, being the start of winter its also a good time to buy...

I started on a cb250, and then progressed to a cbr600rr, which is still more than enough bike for me. I had a mate that went straight from an rs125 to an r1 and regretted it, because it didnt give him the necessary skills required to ride bike effectively, and be able to use the bike properly.. But as jbird said, at the end of the day its your hard earned $$$$, so buy something that suits you.

chindodood
22-06-10, 01:10 PM
get cbr600rr first
after u get bored of it then get the 1litre bike
cause at the end of the day u want to have fun not to kill yourself
40% of fatal incidents involves 1L riders
saying that probably some dumb ass that went up from 250 to 1000 straight away and ride like fukwits
so my opinion always better to get the 600 first specially from 250. get use to it first then upgrade it again later on

mxcrazy
22-06-10, 02:18 PM
If i were you, i'd probably go for a gixxer 750. Quick, stable, and easy to ride for a supersport bike.. You'll probably manage to pick one up for a reasonable price too. My mate just bought an 08 gixxer 750 with 5000ks and a heap of mods for 8.5k...

danielb
22-06-10, 07:09 PM
I want something like a TRX850 or a VTR1000F for my next bike :lol:

Effortless torque is nice to have on a road bike...

Any of the bikes you are asking about will be fine, i didn't find a massive difference between the gsxr600 and 750.

SfS
22-06-10, 10:01 PM
I've got my eye on a gsxr600 and a 750, so will be looking further into it and test riding this weekend hopefully.

driverbent
22-06-10, 10:53 PM
I want something like a TRX850 or a VTR1000F for my next bike :lol:


TRX850 FTW, that is one bike your not going to see very often on your sunday natio runs. Plus the sound of ole skool big bang motor.

jbird
23-06-10, 01:48 PM
Any of the bikes you are asking about will be fine, i didn't find a massive difference between the gsxr600 and 750.

+1. 150cc isn't much. CTP is cheaper for a 600 too I think

Buy whats cheaper of the two and shop around a lot theres a huge variance in price when buying bikes because some owners treat them as throw away toys that they never rode.

I know someone who sold his 06 GSX-R 600 for 7.8k with low kms just because he he didn't care. This is giong back to last yaer around April too.

chindodood
28-06-10, 07:53 PM
why not daytona 675 :)

chindodood
28-06-10, 07:53 PM
i knw a girl taht sellin her 08 or 07 r6 for 8.5k n very low kms

SfS
28-06-10, 09:52 PM
Not too much a fan of trumpys, but I ended up getting something on the weekend so ;)

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5637/p6260133.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/p6260133.jpg/)

benxxx
28-06-10, 11:34 PM
Get a pilot power on the front to match the rear and you'll be sweet as, the those bridgestones on the front aren't much chop.

benxxx
28-06-10, 11:35 PM
p.s. nice bike, we were looking for a yellow 750 for ages for my brother, but he ended up getting a 1000 as no decent 750's were available at the time

mxcrazy
29-06-10, 05:18 PM
Get a pilot power on the front to match the rear and you'll be sweet as, the those bridgestones on the front aren't much chop.


+1

SfS
29-06-10, 05:26 PM
Get a pilot power on the front to match the rear and you'll be sweet as, the those bridgestones on the front aren't much chop.

p.s. nice bike, we were looking for a yellow 750 for ages for my brother, but he ended up getting a 1000 as no decent 750's were available at the time


Yeh I plan on getting a new front tyre, hopefully before my track day. And they're an aweful hard colour to come by, apparently only 50 in Aus im told. Looks SO much better then black on yellow.

TurBIce
29-06-10, 05:59 PM
R1 :)

SfS
29-06-10, 06:23 PM
Kantana? lol

chindodood
30-06-10, 09:14 AM
get fender eliminator kit pls :)

driverbent
30-06-10, 09:19 AM
Looks good dude and yea +1 on the front tyre.

Yogi
21-07-10, 01:41 AM
Great choice

End of the day its how you feel on a bike, I remember wanting an r6 ages ago, then I rode one and hated the riding position, wasnt smooth at all... the suzukis are more suited to my 6ft2 height

Id be put off just sitting on half the bikes out there

SfS
21-07-10, 09:00 AM
Yeh i'm 6"3 going on 6"4, and most bikes look like 250s to me lol, but the gixxer felt fantastic!

CONAN
05-08-10, 12:19 PM
Yeh i'm 6"3 going on 6"4, and most bikes look like 250s to me lol, but the gixxer felt fantastic!

How's the gixxer going mate? Keen on upgrading to a litre yet?

PA70NG
05-08-10, 04:19 PM
How's the gixxer going mate? Keen on upgrading to a litre yet?

Why would someone upgrade to a litre after having had a 750 for mere weeks?

Anyway, its funny you bigger guys say that. I'm 5'9" and found the Gixxer much more suited to me. Rode and R6 as well and agree, not smooth and didn't like the riding position.

mxcrazy
05-08-10, 04:45 PM
Why would someone upgrade to a litre after having had a 750 for mere weeks?

Anyway, its funny you bigger guys say that. I'm 5'9" and found the Gixxer much more suited to me. Rode and R6 as well and agree, not smooth and didn't like the riding position.

+1

CONAN
06-08-10, 09:28 AM
Not too much a fan of trumpys, but I ended up getting something on the weekend so ;)

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5637/p6260133.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/p6260133.jpg/)

Not selling it already are ya? :P

http://www.bikesales.com.au/all-bikes/private/details.aspx?Cr=3&R=3222152&keywords=&trecs=9&__Ns=p_RankSort_Int32|1||p_Make_String|0||p_Model_ String|0||p_YearMade_Int32|1||p_PriceSort_Decimal| 1&__sid=12A46A07E0AD&__Nne=15&__Qpb=true&seot=1&__N=1432 604 1430 1429 1428 4294967268 4294966835 80&silo=1400

chindodood
06-08-10, 10:08 AM
its not the same bike?

PA70NG
06-08-10, 10:30 AM
its not the same bike?


Exactly, has rim tape and fender eliminator

CONAN
06-08-10, 12:17 PM
Exactly, has rim tape and fender eliminator

only takes an hour to put it on :)

SfS
06-08-10, 06:36 PM
Naa mate def not selling. I don't think i'd have the heart too. I havn't riden the bike the past week i've been in NZ, but i'll definately be jumping back onto it asap to give it a squirt!

Still love it as much as the day I got it :D