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chindodood
24-05-10, 10:22 PM
anyone selling bike
learner bike =]
prefer 250rr wit targa kit

s_vtec
24-05-10, 10:53 PM
Get a RVF400 then you will never be bored while your on your restricted license :)

chindodood
24-05-10, 11:04 PM
who makes them?

kev.inc
24-05-10, 11:05 PM
Honda

s_vtec
24-05-10, 11:09 PM
They a bit under rated but they definitely shits on the CBR250RR :) with a bit more on the price tag but its worth it

http://www.bikesales.com.au/all-bikes/dealer/details.aspx?R=8710872&__sid=1285AEA1DA58&__Qpb=true&Cr=6&__Ns=p_RankSort_Int32|1||p_Make_String|0||p_Model_ String|0||p_YearMade_Int32|1||p_PriceSort_Decimal| 1&keywords=&__N=1432%20604%201429%201428%204294967259%2080%204 294966622&SearchAction=N&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=19&silo=1400

or if you love the tgya kit then:

http://www.bikesales.com.au/all-bikes/dealer/details.aspx?R=8710756&__Qpb=true&Cr=5&__Ns=p_RankSort_Int32|1||p_Make_String|0||p_Model_ String|0||p_YearMade_Int32|1||p_PriceSort_Decimal| 1&keywords=&__N=1432%20604%201429%201428%204294967259%2080%204 294966622&SearchAction=N&silo=1400&__No=0&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=19&__sid=1285AEA1DA58

chindodood
24-05-10, 11:16 PM
the second one is nice
but is it worth it to spend 10k on ur first bike?

s_vtec
24-05-10, 11:21 PM
well really depends, financially, you see I wasn't to fuss about spending a fair bit and to be very honest, I owned a fair few motorbikes and I do wish to spend that little more for less headache.

when your on your restricted license riding around on a 250cc, you will definitely want more power and the RVF400 will keep you tamed for awhile because I don't think they anything faster on the LAMS list, plus its a very easy motorbike to learn and ride on

chindodood
24-05-10, 11:25 PM
oh ok
oh i dun have to stay long on my P =]
yeah for sure prefer spend a lil extra !
im turnin 25 this year so apparently i can go for my full straight away after i turn 25
am i right?

s_vtec
24-05-10, 11:29 PM
you just stay on your red p's and no need to do your greens

chindodood
24-05-10, 11:30 PM
can u double up on ur red?

s_vtec
24-05-10, 11:31 PM
nah not till your on your fulls

chindodood
24-05-10, 11:35 PM
oh ok..
how long u been riding?

s_vtec
24-05-10, 11:35 PM
oh ok..
how long u been riding?

If you don't count having a actual license then since I was 13 on dirt bikes and I am turning 21 this year lol

chindodood
24-05-10, 11:36 PM
oh ok u ride alot now?

s_vtec
24-05-10, 11:38 PM
oh ok u ride alot now?

nah barely, don't really have time, just started a business so don't really want to afford another stack lol

chindodood
24-05-10, 11:41 PM
oh ok hahaah well when ihave my bike n ur man enough to ride let me knw :P

s_vtec
24-05-10, 11:43 PM
oh ok hahaah well when ihave my bike n ur man enough to ride let me knw :P

haha PM me and I will be man enough to join :)

chindodood
24-05-10, 11:45 PM
done!
haha
ur recommended rvf400 than cbr250rr
where can i get the bike check out ? n how much would it cost roughly?

s_vtec
24-05-10, 11:49 PM
done!
haha
ur recommended rvf400 than cbr250rr
where can i get the bike check out ? n how much would it cost roughly?

If your budget can stretch a bit more to a RVF400 then I definitely recommend it, usually I just ride a few around, the condition of it and see what feels right, otherwise I know they this one person that does check them but I am not to sure who, it was awhile back when I met him

chindodood
24-05-10, 11:54 PM
oh ok
prob go for vrf400 wit targa kit =]
how much insurance do i have to pay?
prob comperhensive?

s_vtec
24-05-10, 11:57 PM
oh ok
prob go for vrf400 wit targa kit =]
how much insurance do i have to pay?
prob comperhensive?

Insurance I am not the best person to speak to because I don't have one :P I can never afford it haha plan is to not crash

chindodood
25-05-10, 12:18 AM
nah if im gonna spend close to 10k on a bike i prefer insurance lol plus dont wanna hit a ferrari n later i have to pay it off the rest of my life

keungleung
25-05-10, 12:29 AM
can't tempt u with my zx2r so i dont have to put it on bikesales? LOL

that vfr400 definitely looks hot tho if money's not an issue

comprehensive insurance is crazy if ur around 25 and learner (huge excess), 3rd party only is extremely cheap....... get a few quotes before going with any of those bikes

LameGX
25-05-10, 12:33 AM
I've heard a few people saying to go for the VFR over the CBR... why though? Quicker?

s_vtec
25-05-10, 01:02 AM
its RVF400 by the way, the VFR400 is actually not learner legal, the RVF400 is a lot quicker

chindodood
25-05-10, 10:41 AM
can't tempt u with my zx2r so i dont have to put it on bikesales? LOL

that vfr400 definitely looks hot tho if money's not an issue

comprehensive insurance is crazy if ur around 25 and learner (huge excess), 3rd party only is extremely cheap....... get a few quotes before going with any of those bikes

send me pics
[email protected]
i prob jst do 3rd party fire n theft

keungleung
25-05-10, 11:24 AM
send me pics
[email protected]
i prob jst do 3rd party fire n theft

hahaha pics in the other [FS] thread!

blackster
25-05-10, 12:54 PM
Its not the easiest bike to learn on whilst on your Ls, unless you have some rider experience, its also not user friendly if your a smaller guy also.

8k+ for a 20 year old bike with a slapped together parts & kit is way overpriced for a learner bike IMO. Its n00bs that pay that price & keep it inflated.

Just like JDM 250rr's the rvf-400s have the same issues in regards to getting accurate history on the bike. IE changed ODO, mechanical/body swapped; sitting in dockyards in japan.

I inspected 4 RVF's and all of them had gone for a slide at least once in there life time; amoungst other issues I found & required to be fixed.

In the end i gave up and settled for a ninja; its not as quick but its rider friendly, newer and i know it wont have many (if any) issues other than normal servicable stuff.

Kyon
25-05-10, 01:09 PM
If you're going to be upgrading in a years time, just save your money and get a CBR or something cheap. They're going for ~4k now on bikesales

Put the money you save towards a bigger bike when you get on your fulls.

PA70NG
25-05-10, 01:12 PM
Unless its a new RS125, lol @ 10k for a learner bike

Go test ride bikes at dealership to determine what suits you best first

Stunn-R
25-05-10, 01:29 PM
Rabbit, you want to kill yourself or something

Get the scooter you rode in Vietnam !! :D

chindodood
25-05-10, 10:36 PM
Rabbit, you want to kill yourself or something

Get the scooter you rode in Vietnam !! :D

lol u stil remembered hahaa

neways guys what u think of yzf r125?

s_vtec
25-05-10, 10:48 PM
lol u stil remembered hahaa

neways guys what u think of yzf r125?

slow :) and good if you are a girl?

but a 125cc you will definitely get bored very quickly as all my friends have when they started out on a 125cc plus the price you pay for the R125 isn't to cheap.

of course if its a Aprilia RS125 which is a 2 stroke 125cc then that's a different story (bias) :P

chindodood
25-05-10, 11:12 PM
slow :) and good if you are a girl?

but a 125cc you will definitely get bored very quickly as all my friends have when they started out on a 125cc plus the price you pay for the R125 isn't to cheap.

of course if its a Aprilia RS125 which is a 2 stroke 125cc then that's a different story (bias) :P

how much rs125?
so i gues stick wit cbr250rr wit targa kit or rvf400 wit targa kit huh

tai9a
25-05-10, 11:13 PM
Why does Chindodood keep calling it a TARGA kit. TYGA !

Why not buy the zx2r to learn off keung, saves you that 6k for insurance, riding gear, potential first stack repairs etc. Of coarse doesnt look as good as the kitted rvf

chindodood
25-05-10, 11:16 PM
oh this is the second time im going for my bike licence.. i had it couple years ago and its expired n now im gonna go for it again but i dun have to stay on my p for long cuz im turning 25 this year

chindodood
25-05-10, 11:18 PM
dnt really like the look of it to be honest..

s_vtec
25-05-10, 11:40 PM
I bought my RS125 for $6,000, it was alright and pretty fun to ride around and kept me entertained

here a pic of my old one I had when I was on my Ls :)

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2659/125rs002.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/125rs002.jpg/)

Now I think about it, I take a RVF400 over it, the rs125 was pretty hard to learn on compare to 4 stroke but it was definitely a fun little bike to fang around and loud as shit also newer

PA70NG
25-05-10, 11:56 PM
Judging by his posts I dont think he cares whats easier to learn on as opposed to looks.

That said, even based on looks Id still take an RS125

jdmsinister
26-05-10, 12:36 AM
i agree with s_vtec cbr250rrs are great bikes but after a while you can feel its age and 250cc isnt enough especially for 2 -3 years on P's. id go with the rv400.

tai9a
26-05-10, 12:50 AM
dnt really like the look of it to be honest..

fair enough.
rvf400 ftw then. i was spewing when i didnt get a black tyga one for $7k. cheapest one in Oz. maybe when i hit 25 years old..

PA70NG
26-05-10, 09:14 AM
fair enough.
rvf400 ftw then. i was spewing when i didnt get a black tyga one for $7k. cheapest one in Oz. maybe when i hit 25 years old..

dont you mean targa :lol:

chindodood
26-05-10, 09:39 AM
dont you mean targa :lol:

shushhh u lol

chindodood
26-05-10, 09:40 AM
fair enough.
rvf400 ftw then. i was spewing when i didnt get a black tyga one for $7k. cheapest one in Oz. maybe when i hit 25 years old..

8k for rvf400 wit tyga kit is it cheap? were lookin around bikesales last night
how much the rs125? but s_vtec said wit 125 i prob gonna get bored really easily lol

s_vtec
26-05-10, 09:47 AM
you will get bored with a YZF-R125 but with the RS125 its a 2 stroke motor and its quicker, louder and more fun to ride, but when you hit powerband then it scream its tits off lol end of the day it did give the CBR250RR a suprise :P but definitely sure corners pretty good

PA70NG
26-05-10, 09:57 AM
An RS125 will run rings around a CBR250RR in the twisties. Hell Ive even been with good riders on the Aprillia that have given 600's a run for their money

Dont bother with the 4 stroke 125s like the R125 and CBR125, good for commuting, nothing else

chindodood
26-05-10, 10:01 AM
but i heard 2 stroke is harder to maintain? isnt it mean better to get rvf400 cuz rvf400 and rs125 is about same price

PA70NG
26-05-10, 10:11 AM
Not harder to maintain IMO, just need to be on time with maintainance. In addition to my 600 I also own a 21yr old 125 2T and she still runs fine

Personally Id be more worried about buying a 15+ yr old Honda thats most likely been dropped, wound back and basically just old

I will agree that 2T bikes are more challenging to ride

chindodood
26-05-10, 10:13 AM
why would u say its more challenging/

PA70NG
26-05-10, 10:17 AM
why would u say its more challenging/

They dont have much down low, need to keep them in powerband to get the most out of it. And riding in powerband in twisties can be a bit challenging. You can't just roll on and expect the power to be there.

I guess a more important question is what do you want to use the bike for?

Straight line- CBR/RVF
Twisties - RS125

My opinion anyways :)

chindodood
26-05-10, 10:17 AM
now when i think about it maybe i go for rs125 jst becuz its newer compare to cbr and rvf, they were made in 90s what u guys recommended?

PA70NG
26-05-10, 10:18 AM
Test ride them man, like I said, theyre 3 different bikes with different charcteristics

chindodood
26-05-10, 10:19 AM
i prob jst use it 2-3 times a week jst to ride out wit sum frends
nothing crazy like twisties prob jst lil cruise to the beach or city n maybe go to twisties every now n then

PA70NG
26-05-10, 10:22 AM
You'll enjoy the RVF or CBR more then. Just don't buy a shit one like so many out there, choose carefully !

chindodood
26-05-10, 10:29 AM
prob 6k wit tyga kit on it?
sounds reasonable for cbr250rr?

or 8k wit tyga kit on rvf400 sounds reasonable?

chindodood
26-05-10, 10:31 AM
n 1 quick question
goin for my L in 2 weeks time
if i rememebr u can go for ur red p after 3 months on ur L
n then im turnin 25 at the end of the year do i have to stay on my red n green or can i get go for my unrestricted licence?

s_vtec
26-05-10, 10:34 AM
I will be very honest, the RS125 have been a good bike to own and I would love to buy another one, I heard that a lot of maintenance of cbr250rr due to its age which ends up costing more to maintain and look after it as oposed to the rs125 since it is a newer bike so you will also feel that the quality is there as you sit on it.

I have to say that I am more comfortable fanging the rs125 through the twisties as I did with my R6 and R1

chindodood
26-05-10, 10:40 AM
how bout rvf400?
yeah i think cbr250rr is abit old

s_vtec
26-05-10, 10:58 AM
RVF400 are a bit old but I seen more of them in fairly reasonable condition compare to the CBR250RR, they one in pretty good condition at Teamoto Blacktown but they want an arm and a leg for it

chindodood
26-05-10, 10:59 AM
yeah i dun wanan spend more than 7k if i can :D

s_vtec
26-05-10, 11:05 AM
$7k can definitely get you a pretty damn good condition RS125, I would suggest you go take one for a test ride because it is really a different bike compare to the RVF400 and CBR250RR

chindodood
26-05-10, 11:17 AM
only 2 of them in nsw
i only like 1 of them i emailed them already =]

Taikyu
26-05-10, 11:45 AM
Have you considered the Kawasaki Ninja 250R?

If your just going to be riding casually this is a great learner bike. A few of my friends have them, they look good, really comfortable and easy to ride.
Not to mention lower maintenance then the older bikes and it's in your price range....

Kyon
26-05-10, 01:58 PM
n 1 quick question
goin for my L in 2 weeks time
if i rememebr u can go for ur red p after 3 months on ur L
n then im turnin 25 at the end of the year do i have to stay on my red n green or can i get go for my unrestricted licence?

You have to do 1 year of red P's and then you can go straight for unrestricted because you're over 25. Only people over 30 or something can go from L's -> unrestricted straight away.

Like I said before, if you're planning on selling and upgrading as soon as you get your unrestricted license, don't spend too much on your first bike. I wouldn't bother with an RVF, because it's too much for a bike that I'm only going to own for a year (if I had to deal with that 3 year P plates bullshit, I probably would get one though) You could easily pick up a 4k CBR and Tyga it up yourself for cheap.

A good analogy I've heard is that the CBR250 is the S13 of the bike world. It's really hard to find a clean one, they've all been crashed/thrashed, but parts are plentiful and cheap. The important thing is finding one that's good mechanically, since cosmetics are cheap - engines aren't.

That said, there's a reason that CBRs are popular - the engines are relatively reliable considering their age, and they're pretty powerful for a 250CC bike (same deal with all of the other inline 4cyl 250cc bikes) It's a very good street bike to commute on, and it's more than fast enough if you're only interested in street riding (it's not that tall, $10 fuel for ~250km, 0-100 in <6 seconds, predictable power band)

Maintenance is part of owning a bike as well, but you can save by buying a well looked after one to begin with. I've had my CBR for almost 2 years now, and the only maintenance I've had to do is basic oil/tyres/coolant - which I would have done on any other bike. It's always started easily - even in winter and without any choke, and it's never had electrical problems. I even rode to uni today, in the rain.

hunghing
26-05-10, 03:55 PM
Go for the CBR250RR. They're like the falcodores of bikes so you shouldn't have trouble sourcing parts. I've heard of other older 4 cylinder bikes sitting in the workshop for a year waiting for parts to pop up in the market.

And with $7k to spend on a CBR250RR you should be able to pick up something in real good condition. These bikes are known to be pretty reliable. The only problems I've had with mine were a puncture tyre and being stolen.

Personally, I think the Ninja 250 is a faux sports bike. It's pretty much a twin with modern fairings slapped onto it. The riding position is pretty upright. And the ones I've seen close up have pretty poor workmanship.

Taikyu
26-05-10, 04:41 PM
Personally, I think the Ninja 250 is a faux sports bike. It's pretty much a twin with modern fairings slapped onto it. The riding position is pretty upright. And the ones I've seen close up have pretty poor workmanship.

Personally I don't think any 250cc class bike you can get on your L's can be classed as a sports bike anyway.

Hmmmm Don't know about the poor worksmanship, looks like you ride a CBR250RR so please do tell. Only problem I know about these are the cold starts...

Also I think asking 7k for a old school bike is abit tall IMO :rolleyes:

Perry
26-05-10, 06:00 PM
Sorry if you have posted at the start are you small, tall????

Honestly you shouldnt have to spent 7k+ on a cbr these days. I've been on a cbr250rr and ninja zx2-r I'm a honda nut but ill still recommend a ninja over a cbr250rr.

hunghing
26-05-10, 06:11 PM
Personally I don't think any 250cc class bike you can get on your L's can be classed as a sports bike anyway.


I think turning on a CBR250RR is more akin to a sports bike with a stronger emphasis on countersteering and leaning. Just look at the notoriety the CBR has gained for failing in the slow parts of the Ps tests. Also, the riding position on the CBR250RR is more 'sporty' as it pushes you forward. The CBR250RR is probably good for setting a learner up if they want to progress onto larger sports bikes.



Also I think asking 7k for a old school bike is abit tall IMO :rolleyes:

Yeah I think it's pretty steep considering its a 10-20 yo bike. With low supply and high demand, it's got a Takumi tax slapped on it. But since no one is releasing a 4 cylinder 250cc they seem to retain their value pretty well. I guess you pay more for it when you buy it and you get more for it when you sell it.

Kyon
26-05-10, 06:48 PM
Personally I don't think any 250cc class bike you can get on your L's can be classed as a sports bike anyway.

Hmmmm Don't know about the poor worksmanship, looks like you ride a CBR250RR so please do tell. Only problem I know about these are the cold starts...

Also I think asking 7k for a old school bike is abit tall IMO :rolleyes:

The CBR250/ZX2R/FZR/GSXR250 were all pretty common race bikes a long time ago in Japan. All of these bikes were known for having being way over-engineered for a 250cc bike, as they shared a lot of technology with the bigger 'supersport' bikes at the time. 4 cylinders is overkill for a 250cc bike, which is why they don't make them anymore.

That said, I wouldn't pay more than 5k for a CBR and neither will most people. RVFs are the new LAMS bike of choice, and they're not that much more price wise. Anyone asking for more than 6k for a CBR is dreaming, tyga kit or not.

The newer ninjas are definitely good bikes. Very easy to learn on, heaps comfortable and it has a fuel gauge! But they're not sport bikes - The riding position has moved even more upright, so it's more of a tourer now than anything.

TurBIce
26-05-10, 08:29 PM
why not join a bike club. then get one of the forum members to come with you that knows that model bike and shout him/her a beer.

blackster
26-05-10, 08:45 PM
You have to do 1 year of red P's and then you can go straight for unrestricted because you're over 25. Only people over 30 or something can go from L's -> unrestricted straight away.



Wrong.

Irrelevant if your under or over 25 everyone does P1's, if your over 25 and have an unrestricted drivers license than your expempt from P2.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/licensing/gettingalicence/motorcycle/index.html

Kyon
27-05-10, 01:11 AM
Wrong.

Irrelevant if your under or over 25 everyone does P1's, if your over 25 and have an unrestricted drivers license than your expempt from P2.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/licensing/gettingalicence/motorcycle/index.html

That's what I said? Unless you're talking about the over 30 thing, - because that's how it used to be, unless the RTA changed it recently.

chindodood
27-05-10, 01:53 AM
Sorry if you have posted at the start are you small, tall????

Honestly you shouldnt have to spent 7k+ on a cbr these days. I've been on a cbr250rr and ninja zx2-r I'm a honda nut but ill still recommend a ninja over a cbr250rr.

im about 90kgs and 180cms

chindodood
27-05-10, 02:10 AM
gonna look at rvf400 n cbr250rr this weekend
will let u guys knw how i go :)

chindodood
27-05-10, 02:18 AM
Sorry if you have posted at the start are you small, tall????

Honestly you shouldnt have to spent 7k+ on a cbr these days. I've been on a cbr250rr and ninja zx2-r I'm a honda nut but ill still recommend a ninja over a cbr250rr.

i inquire about zx2r let u knw how it go
only 1 for sale blue one 2008 for 6.2k

mxcrazy
28-05-10, 10:37 AM
when I got my l's, I started on my cbr600rr, and never looked back... it's relatively similar to an rvf400, and prices have dropped significantly over the last few months... although not being learner legal, chances of getting caught arent actually that high

PA70NG
28-05-10, 10:58 AM
when I got my l's, I started on my cbr600rr, and never looked back... it's relatively similar to an rvf400, and prices have dropped significantly over the last few months... although not being learner legal, chances of getting caught arent actually that high

great advice

chindodood
28-05-10, 11:09 AM
when I got my l's, I started on my cbr600rr, and never looked back... it's relatively similar to an rvf400, and prices have dropped significantly over the last few months... although not being learner legal, chances of getting caught arent actually that high

nah dun want to lose 4 points
my frend did that
stupid
why u want trouble for

s_vtec
28-05-10, 12:09 PM
lol its more then 4 points

mxcrazy
28-05-10, 12:27 PM
it's 4 points for the first offence, and 7 for every subsequent offence.... I'm not saying i necessarily condone it, but it's just food for thought

thegame888
28-05-10, 01:13 PM
Just get what's within the law. Later on, u can ride whatever you want.

Paulstar
28-05-10, 10:32 PM
I wouldn't bother spending too much on a L's bike, I spent around 4g's with new tyres etc on mine. It had a decent chassis / brakes but probably not enough tyre width to let me get too aggressive on cornering. See even if you get the best L's bike its very very very tame in comparison to say a 600cc that you could upgrade too on your fulls and when you do upgrade you'll probably have a bit of a laugh on how much emphasis you put on your L bike,

But, if you dont mind losing a few k here an there you might as well get a better built learner bike, you'll gain confidence on it faster and probably be a better rider on your upgrade than if you went for a pedestrian, budget L plater special.

Go the RS125 :cool:

chindodood
29-05-10, 12:37 PM
I wouldn't bother spending too much on a L's bike, I spent around 4g's with new tyres etc on mine. It had a decent chassis / brakes but probably not enough tyre width to let me get too aggressive on cornering. See even if you get the best L's bike its very very very tame in comparison to say a 600cc that you could upgrade too on your fulls and when you do upgrade you'll probably have a bit of a laugh on how much emphasis you put on your L bike,

But, if you dont mind losing a few k here an there you might as well get a better built learner bike, you'll gain confidence on it faster and probably be a better rider on your upgrade than if you went for a pedestrian, budget L plater special.

Go the RS125 :cool:

so what u tryin to say? rs125 or rvf400 lol

chindodood
29-05-10, 11:09 PM
is there any other site that i can look beside www.bikesales.com.au

s_vtec
30-05-10, 11:09 PM
www.tradingpost.com.au

Will
30-05-10, 11:26 PM
RS125 sounds like shit , makes you look like your riding your lawn mower. you will get bored of a 125, dont even bother, get the RVF.

oonini
31-05-10, 03:59 PM
Your gonna die if you get the Rvf hahaha, Get the Cbr250rr you'll love it :twisted: but it might not have the juice for the highways

DrewMan
31-05-10, 05:49 PM
Your gonna die if you get the Rvf hahaha, Get the Cbr250rr you'll love it :twisted: but it might not have the juice for the highways

Dear God, not another CBR250RR.

Youre paying a stupid amount for a 15 year old bike thats had at least 10 different owners and each one thinks they can ride like Rossi. Not to mention finding one that actually runs!

chindodood
01-06-10, 11:40 AM
made up my mind going for 09 or 10 ninja 250r

Taikyu
01-06-10, 01:10 PM
^ Wise choice!

Are you buying new or second hand?

zawrilla
01-06-10, 03:42 PM
RS125 sounds like shit , makes you look like your riding your lawn mower. you will get bored of a 125, dont even bother, get the RVF.

I love the sound of the RS125. When it's on song it's awesome.

It's also such a capable bike. I would've bought one if I wanted to dish out the cash for a newer bike. If you wanted sports and a newer choice, this is the only way to go.

If you aren't interested in a 'sports' bike but want something new, I would go for a VTR250. They've got enough go, are more practical and comfortable to ride, and because they are newer bikes will also be quite reliable/have known history.

The more I look at bikes now, the more I like the naked bike style.

I paid $4k for my ZX2R. It wouldn't suit as a daily - wouldn't be so comfortable on a daily commute, and hardly as reliable as the newer bikes, but for how I use it, it serves me fine. Therefore didn't want to spend 6, 7, 8, 9 thousand on a learner bike.

Just depends what you want out of the bike really.

ianmallee
01-06-10, 03:45 PM
CB400

s_vtec
01-06-10, 04:46 PM
RS125 FTW!, I don't care what they say about how it sounds like a lawn mower but I reckon its music to my ears when it hits powerband

chindodood
01-06-10, 06:24 PM
^ Wise choice!

Are you buying new or second hand?

jst bcuz its newer less headache for me in long run plus i dun have to go for my green p so not that long :) hehe

not to sure
i think i can get brand new in black for 75 without asking for cheaper yet
hehehe maybe brand new or second hand as long it hasnt been dropped or anything

Will
01-06-10, 07:29 PM
jst bcuz its newer less headache for me in long run plus i dun have to go for my green p so not that long :) hehe

not to sure
i think i can get brand new in black for 75 without asking for cheaper yet
hehehe maybe brand new or second hand as long it hasnt been dropped or anything

ohhh yeah (y)

SamB87
01-06-10, 08:25 PM
Just get an RVF-400 dude. I got one for my L's and never regretted it. I've ridden other LAMS bikes and still prefer my RVF over them. Haven't ridden an RS-125 though, mainly because I'm about 100kg and just over 6ft, and would look like donkey kong riding a posty bike.

kev.inc
01-06-10, 08:55 PM
2 stroke > 4 stroke > twin

jaayy
01-06-10, 09:06 PM
yeh i agree with everyone saying not to spend too much on your first bike.

your a learner and face it your gonna drop it and scar it eventually, you'll do it more often now then later when youve got more experience.

i spent 4G on my 2006 250 ninja, it came with 8000km, new tyres and a few scratches. it had all paperwork and reciepts for work and services. I had a look at the cbrr's within the 6K price range and out of all the bikes i inspected none of them felt fresh or even well taken care of, most looked like they werent garaged and showed sighns of wear throughout all the metal exposed throughout the bike. just look on bikesales and you'll see an abundance of bikes with high millage or rebuilt engines

of course no offense intended to the cbr owners but they sure arent a bang for buck bike

SamB87
01-06-10, 09:11 PM
V4 400 4 stroke > I4 125 2 stroke

Fixed.

danielb
01-06-10, 09:23 PM
RS125 sounds like shit , makes you look like your riding your lawn mower. you will get bored of a 125, dont even bother, get the RVF.

WOW lol it sounds better than a parallel twin thats for sure :lol:

I've had a few bikes now, k9 gsxr600, triumph street triple, couple learner legal bikes etc. and at the moment i'm riding a 2000 model RS125.

The thing is so much fun to ride, i love it. Sure, it isn't the fastest thing on the road, but who cares. Never had so much fun on a bike through the national park.

Probably not the greatest choice if you're going to be commuting to work in the city every day on it, however if the bike is just to have fun on then the 125 is awesome.

2 stroke FTW

jaayy
01-06-10, 09:33 PM
^^ yeh some of my mates have had the RS125 and all of them have said it was the one bike that they have dearly missed

s_vtec
01-06-10, 10:41 PM
I have more fun fanging through national parks on the RS125 compare to the R6, gosh I miss the Aprilia :(

It was slow on the straight but I can get pretty damn low on it and also it sure did turn heads from my jollymoto pipe :P

chindodood
01-06-10, 11:05 PM
copy from my email... what should i do?


Hi Ned, would you be free on sunday afternoon probably around lunch time? I be coming from home bush bay so i'm not too far from you.

early afternoon would be best.



Can you please give me your contact number and i probably give you a call say 1-2 hours before hand.

Mobile: 0414 070 180


Is there anything wrong with the bike? If yes, can you please tell me now so it will save both of our time.

There is nothing wrong with the bike and Im glad that you mentioned no time waisting because I am really busy at the moment moving to a new place.


Are you the first owner of this bike? And is there any finance owing on the bike?

Yes correct I am the first owner.

The bike is on finance but I will pay it off once I have a buyer. I am happy with whatever payment/ownership transfer arrangment you would like to propose as I am no expert in that area. Mind you this is the first time I buy something on finance.

Perhaps we can check with RTA on how best we can do that so we are both on the safe side.


Im not too sure about bike but usually before i buy a new car i need to get it check it on revs for money owing or if its been in repairable write off and stuffs like that. If you dont mind can you send me some details regarding vin, rego number and etc.

Infact I would do the same and check all of that for my peace of mind. Please find details below



VIN: jkaexmj19ada53724
Engine: x250jea53724
Rego: QZD86

ianmallee
02-06-10, 09:23 AM
obviously itll show that its on finance
you've got 2 choices
-one get him to pay it off, show you the clear title and then buy it
-two contact the finance company and see if they can transfer to your name if possible (some finance dont let you), you get them to send the statement that he owes to him, you get a copy off him, deduct that amount from your agreed purchase price and then proceed, messy
i like the option one better

Pak
02-06-10, 07:18 PM
Chindo you can make your payment out to his finance company as opposed to paying him. This will force him to payout the contract otherwise prove a moot point for him. That is what I did when I sold mine, got the buyer to make the payment from the bank to Yamaha Finance!

snappy
02-06-10, 09:16 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Honda-RVF400-Learner-Legal-bike-tyga-body-kit-Black-/300431309768?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_Motorcycles&hash=item45f319fbc8

exactly what you wanted.

chindodood
03-06-10, 09:15 AM
i called him couple of times he never pick up

s_vtec
03-06-10, 10:06 AM
I don't really like that Tgya kit on the RVF400, RS125 FTW!!!

kev.inc
03-06-10, 10:14 AM
Full Tyga kit looks like shit. But just a Tyga tail looks shit hot.

kriZy
03-06-10, 11:08 AM
RS125 FTW!, I don't care what they say about how it sounds like a lawn mower but I reckon its music to my ears when it hits powerband
+1 for me too, im a big aprillia fan. BTW your bike was fking nice. I would've bought it off you if you had sold it during the time i was looking.

When I first had my L's I had a brand new ninja 09 2010 model and found that was really easy to learn on.

Jumped on 2 CBR's 250R's and fanged it and it was much faster and felt more sportier cause you lean more forward. Also found abit more challenging to ride than the ninja.

Sold the Ninja and bought an Aprilia RS125 and it was a challange to ride at first but its the best bike i've been on so far and havn't regretted it since. Rides great, sounds great in power band, goes hard and looks SEX.

After looking back at the ninja, all i have to say was it was an easy thing to learn on. But fucken shit, slow and u sit up straight like idiot and look like one when riding. It was only good to ride for 1 month for an introductory Learning session. Every time I see a rider on the ninja 250R, im happy that there are more riders on the road but it reminds me of how shit the ninja 250R was for me.

RS125 FTW! - I've never thought about changing bikes every time i ride it.

PA70NG
03-06-10, 11:32 AM
Although Id take an RS125 as well, im going to stick up for the 250R here and sya its a great bike as not everyone wants a sportier bike.

It does its job well

Also, that Tyga kit on the 400 looks like ASS.

chindodood
03-06-10, 05:46 PM
anyone sellin their bike??? post it up pls or pm me
thanks

danielb
03-06-10, 06:33 PM
RS125 i have is for sale kinda...

It's the older shape. PM me if you're interested at all

Will
04-06-10, 12:12 AM
WOW lol it sounds better than a parallel twin thats for sure :lol:

I've had a few bikes now, k9 gsxr600, triumph street triple, couple learner legal bikes etc. and at the moment i'm riding a 2000 model RS125.

The thing is so much fun to ride, i love it. Sure, it isn't the fastest thing on the road, but who cares. Never had so much fun on a bike through the national park.

Probably not the greatest choice if you're going to be commuting to work in the city every day on it, however if the bike is just to have fun on then the 125 is awesome.

2 stroke FTW

cool story bro.

3AM
04-06-10, 02:14 AM
I have a 2001 kawasaki GPX250...

63,000kms.. owned by a mechanic...

its been dropped tho so has cracked fairings and a tank dent.

if it was perfect it'd fetch 3.5, but im asking 2700 with new tyres, or 2200 as is without.

http://i44.tinypic.com/59zcxi.jpg

danielb
04-06-10, 08:54 AM
cool story bro.

Have you ridden an RS125 or owned one at all? Or do you just make dumb comments like this?

s_vtec
04-06-10, 09:27 AM
I hate it when a lot of people says how crap the RS125 is and shit but never ridden one or owned one.

ianmallee
04-06-10, 09:30 AM
heres my assessment on the rs125
its an ok bike..power band? feels more like the buzzer at the pub telling you your foods ready
commuting everyday in traffic with a bike that struggles up city westlink without a full head of steam is not good, the upside is that it's slim and can weave through stopped traffic easy. getting beaten by 250 scooters is not good, you can but you look stupid HAVING to rev it and making a lot of noise and smoke to do so from the lights

the only reason why you guys like it so much in the twisties that it gives you confidence, confidence that if youre going into a corner too fast you can lean it over instantly and get through with it. this confidence translates it to being a "good" bike rather then having the knowledge to set yourself up for a corner properly on the 600's. the guys that have jumped up from this bike will find the 600's so much easier to ride, but will not be as confident putting it into corners yet. this is because of the lack of experience to set up rather then wing it

fuel consumption....AWESOME!

when my bike was in for repairs, i borrowed a mates for a month returned it and and it was painful, but then again, its hard to come from any bike with power to a 125, so i guarantee that i'd most likely say something similar about any small/light LAMS bike.
so for newbies i can understand why everyone says its "awesome". I'd prefer to go with something a bit bigger, being able to pull away from cars as easily as possible is needed in sydney these days, too many stupid drivers you want to distance yourself from. thats my theory anyways, your choice. no offense to the guys that own/love their RS125's but thats what I felt riding it

when the wife is ready for her bike, i'll be staying away from any sort of 125/kawasaki/cbr250. the vtr250 or 2010 cb250 will be my choice, more to the fact that im digging these naked bikes, fuel consumption is good, dont have to wring its neck as much, light and easy to manouver and theyre pretty much the only bikes that will let her toes touch the floor and then only have to lower them a little....hahah

s_vtec
04-06-10, 09:39 AM
I am definitely a lot quicker on the R6 through the national park and overall riding on the RS125 definitely has made me a better rider, I have also owned a RVF400 previously which was so much easier to ride.

But I am safe to say that, after riding on the RS125 for sometime and hoping onto an R6, it definitely makes it so much easier to ride even thought I could barely get my feet on the ground lol

If I was going to downgrade back to a learner motorbike again, I go the RS125 purely because I have more fun on it compare to any 250cc. I find the RS125 a challenge to ride.

ianmallee
04-06-10, 10:05 AM
If I was going to downgrade back to a learner motorbike again

lets just agree that this will never happen and should never happen

s_vtec
04-06-10, 10:12 AM
lets just agree that this will never happen and should never happen

Yeah or I will kick myself in the nuts

danielb
04-06-10, 12:26 PM
heres my assessment on the rs125
its an ok bike..power band? feels more like the buzzer at the pub telling you your foods ready
commuting everyday in traffic with a bike that struggles up city westlink without a full head of steam is not good, the upside is that it's slim and can weave through stopped traffic easy. getting beaten by 250 scooters is not good, you can but you look stupid HAVING to rev it and making a lot of noise and smoke to do so from the lights

the only reason why you guys like it so much in the twisties that it gives you confidence, confidence that if youre going into a corner too fast you can lean it over instantly and get through with it. this confidence translates it to being a "good" bike rather then having the knowledge to set yourself up for a corner properly on the 600's. the guys that have jumped up from this bike will find the 600's so much easier to ride, but will not be as confident putting it into corners yet. this is because of the lack of experience to set up rather then wing it

fuel consumption....AWESOME!

when my bike was in for repairs, i borrowed a mates for a month returned it and and it was painful, but then again, its hard to come from any bike with power to a 125, so i guarantee that i'd most likely say something similar about any small/light LAMS bike.
so for newbies i can understand why everyone says its "awesome". I'd prefer to go with something a bit bigger, being able to pull away from cars as easily as possible is needed in sydney these days, too many stupid drivers you want to distance yourself from. thats my theory anyways, your choice. no offense to the guys that own/love their RS125's but thats what I felt riding it

when the wife is ready for her bike, i'll be staying away from any sort of 125/kawasaki/cbr250. the vtr250 or 2010 cb250 will be my choice, more to the fact that im digging these naked bikes, fuel consumption is good, dont have to wring its neck as much, light and easy to manouver and theyre pretty much the only bikes that will let her toes touch the floor and then only have to lower them a little....hahah

We weren't comparing it to the bigger bikes though. This is compared to other learner legal bikes. I did also mention that it isn't the best for commuting on hehe.

I personally had more fun riding the rs125 through the natio mainly because it is (relatively) gutless and you have the throttle pinned open all the time - as opposed to a 600cc+ bike where you really do have to be mindful of when you open the throttle and to what degree, especially on roads like the national park.

ianmallee
04-06-10, 01:06 PM
nowhere did i write get a 600, what I'm saying is be careful of what other ppl might regard this bike to being awesome when i think its gutless and weak. it sounds fast and seems because its able to be opened all the way because it has to to do get moving...thats my thought on the RS125 as I've gotten the gist of everyone saying how awesome this bike is when i believe something like a 250 will be better. each to their own

what im trying to get across is that this may be misconstructed with the notion that it is "awesome" when really it inspires "overconfidence"

jbird
04-06-10, 01:59 PM
RVF = V4 400cc
CBR = inline 4 cyl 250cc

between the two there are differences but if your not staying on your Ps/Ls for too long I would jsut buy a 250 cause they're cheaper and provide just as many thrills.

If an extra 15-20hp is important to you then go for the RVF but be prepared to pay a couple of extra k. You can pick up decent 250RRs for 4.5kish these days depending on the seller.

2 important things when buying any old bike:
- good condition/new tyres
- starts every single time without a doubt

Paulstar
04-06-10, 06:05 PM
so what u tryin to say? rs125 or rvf400 lol

RS125, use it to learn on the road and take it on the track regularly. Surely with a more track focussed bike you will learn more about handling and braking than with the RVF400. In my opinion you'll have more potential to become a better rider before you upgrade if you go with the RS125

chindodood
04-06-10, 06:20 PM
nah ended up gettin ninja250r
yeah i knw its slower but less headache n newer bike
plus staying on my red P for 1 yr after that i can jst get my cbr600rr :)

chindodood
04-06-10, 06:29 PM
I have a 2001 kawasaki GPX250...

63,000kms.. owned by a mechanic...

its been dropped tho so has cracked fairings and a tank dent.

if it was perfect it'd fetch 3.5, but im asking 2700 with new tyres, or 2200 as is without.

http://i44.tinypic.com/59zcxi.jpg


hey bro my friend asaked how long rego?
it been dropped before.. has it been in accident?

3AM
04-06-10, 10:15 PM
my mate fell off it.. just slid along the road didn't hit anyway.
hence why i have it, he got spooked...

rego is just under 2 months. (end july)

chindodood
05-06-10, 10:45 AM
ok..
when we gonan go cruising?? should be picking up my bike today if nothing wrong wit it :)

chindodood
05-06-10, 03:23 PM
bought itttt :)

kaws!
08-06-10, 10:40 AM
GPX ftw

Kyon
08-06-10, 04:03 PM
bought itttt :)

PICS!

jaayy
08-06-10, 10:48 PM
GPX ftw

+1, not the most aggresive looking bike but it gets the job done :P

chindodood
09-06-10, 10:57 AM
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/chindodood/DisplayImage-1.jpg

chindodood
09-06-10, 10:58 AM
two brothers exhaust :) rear seat cowling :) and fender elimination kit :)

SfS
09-06-10, 11:56 AM
That would have to be one of the better 250 ninjas ive seen going around.

blackster
09-06-10, 12:53 PM
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/chindodood/DisplayImage-1.jpg

Nice, but black one's are faster :P

Is it complete two bros exhaust system or just a slip on, any other mods?

Filter/snorkel delete, jetting?

chindodood
09-06-10, 01:11 PM
jst slip on i think :)
nah black one no one can see u at night :)

PA70NG
09-06-10, 02:26 PM
jst slip on i think :)
nah black one no one can see u at night :)

Does that mean since my bike is matte black/gloss black and all my gear is black with a black helmet....I'm invisible at night? :P

Nice bike though, normally not a fan of stickers but I don't mind that

jaayy
09-06-10, 04:45 PM
Bike looks neat!

Yeh my bike is black and all my gear is black aswell.

Thinking of the two brother slip on as well... But the tone is too low for my liking, sounds like a harley. The yoshimuras make the 250s sound like weed hackers aswell :(

Kyon
09-06-10, 05:11 PM
Can't stand Yoshi exhausts on the 250r - Two Brothers is where it's at for a nice, grunty sound.