Brake pads

[urban_groover]

what's the best brand for brake pads that won't break my budget?

i drive a 99 is200

[Justin Fox]

Depends on the car. Nothing much worked on my GT-R (thus my brake upgrade to 6 pots) apart from some very aggressive ferrodo pads which literally were worn down to the markers on one single track day, they also cracked my rotors!!!

I had EBC green stuff on the Alfa Romeo 147 and they were so much better than stock.

I've tried Bendix Ultimates on the MX-5, they were good. Also tried Hawk pads (forget which ones but more aggressive than the Bendix) and they were better but they squeeled (which is normal for arace pad).

Prices? I forget (always do when it comes to mods lol).

[prusso]

bendix ultimates are reasonably priced and worked well on my pulsar
endless vn9500 on my dc5 are going good so far and wont break ur budget

[dhdevil]

im on my 2nd set of EBC green stuff, they work well and feel great, but i only hav used them on the street.

[denka]

Anyone ever used the endless CC-X pads before?

[VTECMACHINE]

Anyone ever used the endless CC-X pads before?

GOT THEM!!! The best fucking pads everrrr!!!! Quiet, bite hard when cold, bite harder when hot. Don't over heat. But best to use on a carbon ceramic rotor like a Project Mu SCR PRO or the likes. CC-X's quite exxy tho. but worth it!!

Winmax pads are also good, and good for the pocket.

[bogan]

I can get JDMST members trade prices on repco shit. That includes Bendix brakes.

[denka]

But best to use on a carbon ceramic rotor like a Project Mu SCR PRO or the likes.

Why's that? Because it might chew through lesser rotors? Like the non-pro version of the SCRs?

I ask this because I have a set of front SCRs sitting on my bedroom floor waiting to be hugged by a nice set of pads.

[4agte]

ebc arent all that great altho better than stock

bendic ultimates are great for the street as they are great cold alot better than green stuff but are alot more abrasive on rotors as thats why they work awesome when cold

lucas are also a good pad

hawk are good pads

[bogan]

I don't mind bendix, they're pretty decent.

Ferodos are dusty as, I dont know which type I got when I bought the car. They fade quite a bit after some spirited driving. I wouldn't get them again.

[Cazal 856]

g/f's S14 runs DS2500's. They seem to work well, but I've never really pushed the car too hard, cos it hops around like a jackhammer.

A mate used to run DS3000's. Not sure of cost, but they worked really well as long as you have the right rotors. He ran Project Mu rotors, and they were great, but they don't work so well with DBA stuff.

Also, Pagid RS4-2's I think.... They're good but exxy.

I probably didn't help you at all.

[Mr-M00D]

best street pads, that can take a few track days would be ferrodo ds2500. hasnt faded at eastern creek, or wakefield,
works well till they have died,
have used EBC green stuff, the frition material fell apart after one track day, so they cant take the heat, on the road they were ok, but for the price, would get DS2500 over anyother pads for street, with some track days.
and where to get them.
v-sport would be your best bet,

[urban_groover]

im going to be driving from sydney to canberra and back every weekend so im looking for pads that are gonna last me. i'll be clocking 600km min every week

thanks for your suggestions everyone.

[4agte]

but alot of that driving will be highway so the pads will be cold most of the time i would preferr something that works well from cold

[VTECMACHINE]

Why's that? Because it might chew through lesser rotors? Like the non-pro version of the SCRs?

I ask this because I have a set of front SCRs sitting on my bedroom floor waiting to be hugged by a nice set of pads.

Something to do with the abrasivness of the 2 materials (rotor and pad). Carbon ceramic rotors, should go with carbon ceramic. I tried using Carbon ceramic pads on stock rotors, and they were soooo shit. Then I changed to Winmax pads, which were amazing on my OEM rotors, until the rotors shat themselves. I changed to Project Mu SCR PRO rotors, and using Winmax pads, they weren't biting at all, and my current brake setup (Spoon caliper, SCR PRO rotor, APP braided lines) was shitter than OEM setup. With the change to the CC-X's, it was amazinngggg!!!! Depending on what fluids you use aswell. But yeah. The carbon rotor, and carbon pad combo works well!

[Brian_J]

what's the best brand for brake pads that won't break my budget?

i drive a 99 is200

hey urban groover
i got an is200 as well and i found good results with EBC greenstuff. HUGE reduction in brake dust, and greater bite. didnt really fade on me at all when i took it to the track too. a lot of is200 owners are running them too

go see BrakePro at parramatta they usually stock them

[rupewrecht]

lucas are also a good pad

Lucas are a great pad, once you've superheated them.

[milkman]

^^ I agree. I run Lucas now.. pull up 1400kgs alright!

I used to run EBC Greenstuff they were dusty and very harsh on rotors. They cost 3x the Lucas pads and are not much better.

Lucas cost me $120 at most for front and rears. Very good value for money. Great STREET pad. Wouldn't recommend them for tracks though, after 3 hardcore laps mine faded at Oran Park..

[Hens]

theres no best brand

i run Lucas
Ive used on wakefield too. litlle fade for a street pad. after 2-3 lap i do a cool down anyway. perfect for my daily.

i got green stuff too. see how they go at wakefield.

[VTECMACHINE]

If we talking track... Winmax pads lasted 3 laps, as if CC-X's lasted 25 in one go.

Brand are important. It's like saying a Just Jap oil cooler is the same quality and performance as a Trust/earls cooler etc.

Ben from Touge tune has shown me comparisons between project Mu pads, and Endless pads of the same range. They differ in noise, and dust, and biting properties. Some pads are designed for different rotors. Ask around at garages.
I drove a wrx sti with EBC greenstuff, and found them to be just as good as bendix ultimate, which IMO are not the best of pads.

[Anchor]

If your not doing any spirited driving, you can get cheap pads from places like Auto1 and Repco. ($40 for a set!)

Having done the same thing though, if there is any chance you will be doing spirited driving / track days then stay away from them..

[ClioF1]

Lucas are awesome if you're on a budget, DS2500 a very very good street/race pad if you can afford them. I'm running both at the moment in my two cars and if you don't do any racing Lucas might be the better option.

[Hens]

I drove a wrx sti with EBC greenstuff, and found them to be just as good as bendix ultimate, which IMO are not the best of pads.

Racebrakes would definately say EBC greenstuff will not work as well in a heavier car like a WRX.

Are you comparing the exact same car with same tyres etc on different pads or another car with different pads?.

[scathing]

Ferodos are dusty as, I dont know which type I got when I bought the car. They fade quite a bit after some spirited driving. I wouldn't get them again.

Which Ferodos did you use?

I've run DS2500s for a while, and I've only ever gotten them to fade once. That was when I had the stock Touring brakes (same caliper as a 1.2 ton RPS13 on my 1.5 ton Z33), and on the track in the middle of summer at Oran Park. I was running semi slicks at the time so I was hammering the brakes and, even then, that was at the end of my session.

They're as dusty as all fuck, but I've never heard a bad thing about the Ferodo DS series' performance (including people who raced Formula Fords in the NSW championships, who run DS2500s). You can get an idea of the target use of the Ferodo DS2500s when you read the documentation and the prescribed run-in procedure is to do several laps at "70% race pace".

I know they make more "streetable" pads, but I've never heard of anyone using them.

[bogan]

Ferodos are dusty as, I dont know which type I got when I bought the car. They fade quite a bit after some spirited driving. I wouldn't get them again.

dunno man, they were the pads the car came with when I bought it. When I asked him which pads they were he told me they were Ferodo pads, he wasn't sure on the series.

[Hens]

dunno man, they were the pads the car came with when I bought it. When I asked him which pads they were he told me they were Ferodo pads, he wasn't sure on the series.

maybe its the Ferodos from supercheapauto.

Even Ferodo TS2000 shouldnt be that bad.
But TS2000 and DS2500 are generally only available from brake shops.

[bogan]

most likely, I can be bothered forking out more money for extra good pads anyway. I don't track, so the street pads will do for now.

[scathing]

im going to be driving from sydney to canberra and back every weekend so im looking for pads that are gonna last me. i'll be clocking 600km min every week

Unless you're coming back on a Sunday afternoon you're not going to touch the brakes for around 400 of those kilometres, though. I'm not sure if there's a peak period at the working week's end for heading south, but if you're not driving during those hours you'll also be fine.

Just leave late Friday and come home early or late Sunday.

If you don't track the car and you don't hammer it too hard, just get the cheapest pads you can find. If the OEM pads are relatively inexpensive, get them. Being for an IS200 they should be relatively long-life (Lexus didn't exactly aim it as a hardcore sports car), but perhaps fellow owners can comment, so the money you spend on buying the pads can be offset by not having to make changes as regularly.

[4agte]

Something to do with the abrasivness of the 2 materials (rotor and pad). Carbon ceramic rotors, should go with carbon ceramic. I tried using Carbon ceramic pads on stock rotors, and they were soooo shit. Then I changed to Winmax pads, which were amazing on my OEM rotors, until the rotors shat themselves. I changed to Project Mu SCR PRO rotors, and using Winmax pads, they weren't biting at all, and my current brake setup (Spoon caliper, SCR PRO rotor, APP braided lines) was shitter than OEM setup. With the change to the CC-X's, it was amazinngggg!!!! Depending on what fluids you use aswell. But yeah. The carbon rotor, and carbon pad combo works well!

yeah thats true some pads work with/designed for a specific rotor but for a daily that you want to stop better but still work from cold while not braking the budget bendix ultimates are really good cold lucas are good cold but not as good as the ultimates altho ultimates will chew the rotor.

An upside to bendix/lucas they generally make pads for a wide veriety of cars seeing as tho bendix is bosch

edit: most important thing to remember is to have the fluid flushed and replaced with dot 4 as the higher temps and the temptation to stomp on the brakes is higher the stock fluid will generally boil.

Also something to note if you drive your car hard brake fluid should be flushed no less than every 6 months

[ClioF1]

Racebrakes would definately say EBC greenstuff will not work as well in a heavier car like a WRX.


Haha did they push RB74s as another option?

The fact that Greenstuff performance is questionable as you go up in weight suggests what most people who know their stuff already think about them. They're rubbish.

[Hens]

Haha did they push RB74s as another option?

The fact that Greenstuff performance is questionable as you go up in weight suggests what most people who know their stuff already think about them. They're rubbish.

That might so be. You're not totally wrong there.
Many people have told me not to use them.
Even on Mitsucolt forums UK.
haha
and UK is where they are made.
But I already got them so ill see how it fairs and how much more time i can shave at Wakefield.

DS2500 cost like 250$ yeh?
RB74 was one option and Hawk Blues were another from the top of my head.
My budget for a better track pad was max $150

[dcoghlan]

GOT THEM!!! The best fucking pads everrrr!!!! Quiet, bite hard when cold, bite harder when hot. Don't over heat. But best to use on a carbon ceramic rotor like a Project Mu SCR PRO or the likes. CC-X's quite exxy tho. but worth it!!
I have used a set, and I rate them aas the best road pad I have ever used. On the track they didn't last more than 1 session of wakefield before they started to transfer pad material onto the rotors, but on the street they are f*#king awesome.

[ClioF1]

That might so be. You're not totally wrong there.
Many people have told me not to use them.
Even on Mitsucolt forums UK.
haha
and UK is where they are made.
But I already got them so ill see how it fairs and how much more time i can shave at Wakefield.

DS2500 cost like 250$ yeh?
RB74 was one option and Hawk Blues were another from the top of my head.
My budget for a better track pad was max $150

If you're budget is $150 its a tough call. Lucas are good but not a track pad as such... Greenstuff are somewhere between stock and Lucas IMO but might have better bite from what I understand.

Hawk is good, RB74 will stop better than Greenstuff but only until 50% pad wear and they will chew your rotors to bits and pad material will fall off the pads if you track them hard!

[4agte]

i agree green stuff are about half as good as lucas hawks we used to use in our race/pace cars and they worked a treat