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    Hydrolocking? Should i be worried?

    This might come as a noob question but yeah i've got my flame suit on and ready to take this haha

    So like ive been reading up on some forums different types of air intake and had come to the conclusion i want a CAI but the thing is i keep reading from users is the word "hydrolocking"
    1 - wtf is that?
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    2 - should i be worried if i go for a INJEN CAI

    I was heartbroken that i couldnt be at the EOM meet. work around xmas time just gets insane

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    1) The air intake sucks air in right? Usually when someone goes for a aftermarket intake, the filter is located in the engine bay, usually kept away from water. Sometimes though, people decide to fit their pod nice and low behind the front bar (usually to get a nice cool feed of air for best performance)

    The downside of this, is that when raining, it may be prone to get quite wet and possibly start sucking water in if driving through standing water. This water then basically goes into the engine and can start causing havoc. I know of one case where a guy fucked up like 3 cylinders due to driving through an epic puddle with a low lying air filter.

    2) No, iirc Injen's design is such where its not possible to get hydrolock. Never used their kit and don't have too much else info so I can't personally vouch for it.

    IMO the best way to deal with intakes in general is to have a pod sitting in the engine bay. Have the filter enclosed so that you aren't sucking in hot air from the bay. Then run some ducting from say your front bar to the pod.
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    Was typing my own response but no need, what he said! Hydro = water, water doesn't compress like air when it gets in your cylinder = bent internal engine parts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodgy Racing Developments View Post
    1) The air intake sucks air in right? Usually when someone goes for a aftermarket intake, the filter is located in the engine bay, usually kept away from water. Sometimes though, people decide to fit their pod nice and low behind the front bar (usually to get a nice cool feed of air for best performance)

    The downside of this, is that when raining, it may be prone to get quite wet and possibly start sucking water in if driving through standing water. This water then basically goes into the engine and can start causing havoc. I know of one case where a guy fucked up like 3 cylinders due to driving through an epic puddle with a low lying air filter.

    2) No, iirc Injen's design is such where its not possible to get hydrolock. Never used their kit and don't have too much else info so I can't personally vouch for it.

    IMO the best way to deal with intakes in general is to have a pod sitting in the engine bay. Have the filter enclosed so that you aren't sucking in hot air from the bay. Then run some ducting from say your front bar to the pod.
    Cheers man, So basically get a GRUPPE M intake?

    Quote Originally Posted by nebuchernezzer View Post
    Was typing my own response but no need, what he said! Hydro = water, water doesn't compress like air when it gets in your cylinder = bent internal engine parts!
    Thanks for that

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    you don't need to buy a GRUPPE M, there are heaps of different intakes you could go for. You can get an Injen and create a enclosure for the pod. Or you can get a K&N apollo kit. Or even just some piping and a 20 dollar pod filter and make a custom enclosure.

    Grouppe M is good and will definetly do the job, whether you want to fork out that much $$$ is a different matter.
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    I'd be much more worried about defects and the like, the gruppe M kits i've seen can look pretty neat and OEM style in the engine bay and enclose the filter, and that's probably worth a whole heap by itself!
    Anything that looks like a mod is going to attract attention, especially if it's big and shiny and in your engine bay (like any kind of pod filter or polished intake).

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    if you're filter is low to the ground, be worried, e.g stupid s2000 cai setups...

    but if its at a decent height, with no risk when u go through big puddles, itll be fine.

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    im pretty sure u should be fine avoiding puddles like i do and if u have a Splash guard?? someone please correct me? then it should be fine.

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    Yes splashguards are available for the Injen kits. Apparently there is a slight loss in killer wasps due to the guard, but I have not seen dyno graphs to confirm this. Gruppe M intake gives good gains and give VTEC crossover a very aggressive sound. Really depends if you want to spend $1k on an intake or not....

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    I have the injen cai, no dramas at all. I am careful though when its raining, control my throttle resonse, never go over 3k rpm.

    I have hydroshield lying around, just never really have time to take my bumper off and apply the condom. Im goign to do it soon though, i think the power loss by putting on a hydroshield wont be anything at all.

    Imo the gruppem isnt the best value for the dc5 integra. Theres ALOT of cutting etc just to get the gruppem to fit. And then you'll be constantly trying to get rid of all the rattles adn vibrations from the unit itself. for $800 up a gruppem i would not get for the dc5. if your totally scared about a CAI, go for Mugen airbox

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodgy Racing Developments View Post
    you don't need to buy a GRUPPE M, there are heaps of different intakes you could go for. You can get an Injen and create a enclosure for the pod. Or you can get a K&N apollo kit. Or even just some piping and a 20 dollar pod filter and make a custom enclosure.

    Grouppe M is good and will definetly do the job, whether you want to fork out that much $$$ is a different matter.
    Yeah true, 1grand for an intake is abit overpriced, and well the INJEN setup is pretty much right behind where foglight sits. I did a bit more research on intakes and AEM V2 seem to be a popular choice with many aswell. might have a look into that.

    Quote Originally Posted by nebuchernezzer View Post
    I'd be much more worried about defects and the like, the gruppe M kits i've seen can look pretty neat and OEM style in the engine bay and enclose the filter, and that's probably worth a whole heap by itself!
    Anything that looks like a mod is going to attract attention, especially if it's big and shiny and in your engine bay (like any kind of pod filter or polished intake).
    I hope they dont notice my carbon fibre style hood then, haha yeah i really dont want to attract any attention from our fellow upholders of the law.. CAI isn't even that bad! D:

    Quote Originally Posted by 3AM View Post
    if you're filter is low to the ground, be worried, e.g stupid s2000 cai setups...

    but if its at a decent height, with no risk when u go through big puddles, itll be fine.
    yep it'll be low to the ground. I havent lowered my car yet so once its lower.. + 10 in risk haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charbz View Post
    im pretty sure u should be fine avoiding puddles like i do and if u have a Splash guard?? someone please correct me? then it should be fine.
    Quote Originally Posted by sleepingperformance View Post
    Yes splashguards are available for the Injen kits. Apparently there is a slight loss in killer wasps due to the guard, but I have not seen dyno graphs to confirm this. Gruppe M intake gives good gains and give VTEC crossover a very aggressive sound. Really depends if you want to spend $1k on an intake or not....
    Didn't know that there was a splashguard available only knew of a hydroshield? is that the same thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by plAythiNG View Post
    I have the injen cai, no dramas at all. I am careful though when its raining, control my throttle resonse, never go over 3k rpm.

    I have hydroshield lying around, just never really have time to take my bumper off and apply the condom. Im goign to do it soon though, i think the power loss by putting on a hydroshield wont be anything at all.

    Imo the gruppem isnt the best value for the dc5 integra. Theres ALOT of cutting etc just to get the gruppem to fit. And then you'll be constantly trying to get rid of all the rattles adn vibrations from the unit itself. for $800 up a gruppem i would not get for the dc5. if your totally scared about a CAI, go for Mugen airbox
    I was thinking the same, that gruppe m was too pricey just for an air intake. could put that money into a 4-2-1 header!
    mugen is the same with price its still up there. lol what about the AEM v2?
    Or i'll just have to man up and hope to god that i never come across a puddle big enough to F*** my shit up. haha

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    Splashguards usually come with the car factory if i'm not wrong, just dont go through a giant pond in the road lol.. small puddles here and there are fine.
    Went about a month with a naked cai through rain and etc, it's fine just as i said dont go through large puddles.

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    What sort of power advantages are there from going with these CAIs anyways?
    Are there other ways to go about it like modding your stock airbox and stuffs like that?
    = minimal $, minimal visual and factory levels of not fking your shit up in the rain haha!

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    Lots of people runs CAI set up
    As long as you don't drive into a massive puddle or into a lake
    You would be fine

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